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Old 04-17-2005, 07:23 PM
Sasnak Sasnak is offline
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Default What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

Villain, UTG+1, is 58/2.7/.58 at 50 hands.

This hand really puzzled me. UTG+1 is very LP as is MP2. I felt if I attempted a CR it would get checked through. Had either opponent been aggressive in any manner I would have checked in hopes of CRing.

So I can't afford to give free cards and if I check I lose a bet and give them infinite odds to outdraw me. So is this just a simple freakin' race?!

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls. <font color="blue">(This wasn't too hard to figure... But what was his second card?) </font>

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

River sucks, but calling is probably okay given MP2. Rest is standard.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

I'm guessing his 2nd card was a 9 and UTG+1 is an idiot, otherwise you wouldn't be asking us to guess?

MP2 has nasty skills.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

You can probably fold the river, but you can't do anything the rest of the hand. You are betting for value.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:01 PM
Sasnak Sasnak is offline
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

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You can probably fold the river, but you can't do anything the rest of the hand. You are betting for value.

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No way you can gambool on a CR right?

I reread SSHE's section on Protecting Your Hand again this morning. I was just OOP and screwed here I think. UTG+1 showed a --&gt; <font color="white">KTo</font> &lt;-- Knowing that, would you have played it differently?

If UTG+1 was either TAG or LAG, what's your line?
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Old 04-17-2005, 11:59 PM
tijean tijean is offline
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

If it makes you feel any better, he made major mistakes calling both the flop and turn. You did protect your hand - you just got out-donked.

My question is - what the hell was MP2 cold-calling the river with?
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:48 AM
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If it makes you feel any better, he made major mistakes calling both the flop and turn. You did protect your hand - you just got out-donked.

My question is - what the hell was MP2 cold-calling the river with?

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A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:52 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

I think you're good 1 in 10 times here.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

I put villain on ATo.

I don't think theres any way to protect your hand in this situation.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: What do you put Villain on? ( I failed to protect my hand)

Why are you looking to check/raise in this hand? This is perfect up until you call the river raise. You have one pair and it isn't going to be good in this spot often enough to pay off (and this is coming from someone who makes a lot of tough calls).

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