Gameplan for getting this chick... Advice Requested

[TomCollins]

I've been out of the game for a while in a serious relationship. But that is over, and I need to get my game back. I'm somewhat picky in a girl I want more than just a bang from, so surprisingly I met a girl this summer that seemed to fit the criteria. We hung out a few times, both got back with ex's in the time period, stopped talking, then started talking and hanging out again right before she left the country (she is foreign, but has permanent residency) to visit her family before she starts up a job. She is also moving to Dallas (about 2.5 hours away), but I have family there, and she has friends here, so chances are we'll at least be running into each other plenty.

Although we haven't hung out TOO much (maybe 6 times), she has asked me for a bit more than I would normally expect (wanted me to take her to the airport, although found another ride from her roommate), and now wants me to help her move. I had her over at my house, tried to work my magic, but it didn't quite work out. She has been talking to me while out of the country some, but the time difference makes it different.

She's talked about visiting and so forth. Am I stuck on the friendship tip, or do I have a chance? Any chance I can slide in the friendship tip and work it over? Do I help her move?

If you need more info about the situation, let me know, I'll answer the questions. As for SIIHP, trust me, that's the goal. But I believe its called rape.

[Aloysius]

Hm - her asking you for "bigger" favors, usually reserved for good friends, seems a little weird. Little more detail on that (like, without any reads seems presumptuous and makes me suspicious of her). Is that a foreigner thing or what?

Here To Help,
-Al

[TomCollins]

She's a big prude (she mentioned dating a guy for several months! and never kissing him).

She also asked me to be a loan reference to her on her student loans. After the break from talking, she basically asks me out to her friend's brithday dinner. Some of the oddness of some of these things seem like a foreigner thing. She has complained to me about guys she has dated recently and said "see xyz is this way, unlike you". So I get a lot of reads that make me think something is up. But she might just not know a lot of people here (which is strange since shes been in town for 6 years).

She also came to the US to marry this dude, who turned out to be psycho and threatened to kill her and stuff. But they are divorced (for several years), and she has no contact with him.

She always asks in the form of "if you cant, its no big deal". I don't think she has bad intentions.

[renodoc]

Drop it like its hot.

[jba]

"She also asked me to be a loan reference to her on her student loans. "

is this like a personal reference or a cosign thing?

[Aloysius]

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She's a big prude (she mentioned dating a guy for several months! and never kissing him).

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That's beyond mere prude - how does that even qualify as dating?

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She also asked me to be a loan reference to her on her student loans.

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A loan reference? Tom, seriously, man, wtf that seems really ridiculous.

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She also came to the US to marry this dude, who turned out to be psycho and threatened to kill her and stuff. But they are divorced (for several years), and she has no contact with him.

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Uh - dude - please posts pics immediately it may be the only thing that sways advice from this forum.

These Are All Red Flags Probably Not Worth The Effort,
-Al

[TomCollins]

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She's a big prude (she mentioned dating a guy for several months! and never kissing him).

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That's beyond mere prude - how does that even qualify as dating?
I have no idea. I know she isn't always like this. She was mentioning sex with this other guy, so who knows. She just said that other guy, things weren't "like that".

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She also asked me to be a loan reference to her on her student loans.

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A loan reference? Tom, seriously, man, wtf that seems really ridiculous.
I wasn't cosigning. She just needed a name of someone who didn't live with her to say shes a good person. It seemed odd, but not too unusual.
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She also came to the US to marry this dude, who turned out to be psycho and threatened to kill her and stuff. But they are divorced (for several years), and she has no contact with him.

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Uh - dude - please posts pics immediately it may be the only thing that sways advice from this forum.

Again, its not an ideal situation. But trust me, it's the best prospect. There are a lot of other things about her that are exactly what I'm looking for that are unlikely to be found in a lot of other people
These Are All Red Flags Probably Not Worth The Effort,
-Al

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[mason55]

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"see xyz is this way, unlike you"

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Sorry, you're already on the friend ladder

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Sounds like you're getting played dude. Classis nice guy syndrom.

The only way to break out of this is to risk the rejection and just directly state your intentions of wanting to date. Chances are your sunk but really what are risking? A freindship with some chick? Please that's worth a whole lotta nothing.

Also like Mason stated being compared to the other guys is a bad thing not a good thing. Roughly translated it means something like this "see that guy is a bad boy, I bet if he was with me I could change him" Most girls like arts & crafts whether it be stamps, making things, or guy -- it's all about having a project.

[TomCollins]

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Sounds like you're getting played dude. Classis nice guy syndrom.

The only way to break out of this is to risk the rejection and just directly state your intentions of wanting to date. Chances are your sunk but really what are risking? A freindship with some chick? Please that's worth a whole lotta nothing.

Also like Mason stated being compared to the other guys is a bad thing not a good thing. Roughly translated it means something like this "see that guy is a bad boy, I bet if he was with me I could change him" Most girls like arts & crafts whether it be stamps, making things, or guy -- it's all about having a project.

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Granted I have nothing better to work on, even if I'm drawing thin, any chance for redemption? When we first met, it was starting on the dating tip, but didn't develop. She gave me the "just no spark, its a shame because everything else would work" line. When it started back up again, her friend asked her if we were dating, and she sounded open to the idea. I think she knows I'm interested (or at least that I was). So I'm SOL, eh? Can I at least use this to my advantage in the event that I find anyone else?