Bottom set 3 bet from tight guy

MINETZ · #1 08-30-2005, 07:34 PM

There are 2 villans in this hand, one is a huge donk and has 700 with a 69 vpip over 100 hands, the other is a 10/0/0 ( this is only over 30 hands, obviously not nearly enough)

the converter messed up, so some id done by hand
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($103.75)
MP1 ($191)
MP2 ($207.90)
Hero ($247.15)
CO ($774.95)
Button ($197.25)
SB ($194)
BB ($177)
UTG ($290.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
4 folds, Hero calls $2, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
check check, donk bets 12 tight calls i make it 40 donk calls and tight moves in

do i have enough information to fold bottom set?

jjacky · #2 08-30-2005, 07:41 PM

no, you don't have sufficient information to fold. i think a fold would be a huge mistake.

MINETZ · #3 08-30-2005, 07:44 PM

what else could such a tight player be holding that he would be willing to risk all thats infront of him?

jjacky · #4 08-30-2005, 07:48 PM

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what else could such a tight player be holding that he would be willing to risk all thats infront of him?

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you have only 30 hands. he can have anything (overpair, two pair, straight draw, etc.).

DoomSlice · #5 08-30-2005, 07:53 PM

Even tight players can overplay overpairs.

MINETZ · #6 08-30-2005, 07:58 PM

I undersand, but tight players are worried if their overpairs are good when there is a bet and a check raise, they are not happily going to push their stack in with like jj-qq in this spot.

djoyce003 · #7 08-30-2005, 08:00 PM

did the tight player raise preflop or did the donk?

MINETZ · #8 08-30-2005, 08:03 PM

sorry, donk, thats why i dont put him on an overpair.

jt1 · #9 08-30-2005, 08:11 PM

Tightie is SB, right?

No one plays AA this way. 89 would be played this way but would tightie call in SB with 89? No -- Tightie has a higher set, just no way around it

djoyce003 · #10 08-30-2005, 08:11 PM

yeah you are probably beat by a set over set here because his stats look very set-minerish. However, you have 30 hands with this guy you can't give him credit for it here. If you never fold a set unless the board is a 4-straight or 4-flush you are going to win more than you lose on marginal situations like this one.....the only thing beating you right now is a bigger set and most of the time, they won't have it.