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  #91  
Old 10-17-2005, 12:24 PM
BigBiceps BigBiceps is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged *DELETED*

It is sad that party and stars are rigged. I can't prove it and I wish they weren't but there are too many unusual events (especially with all-ins in the tourneys).

This is also why they are the biggest sites, due to the sucessful "evening out" distribution of money to the players. ie. strong players win less than they should and weak players lose less than they should.

That is why I play on other servers.
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  #92  
Old 10-17-2005, 12:39 PM
Ro-me-ro Ro-me-ro is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged

Since what we (stars) do is so obvious to you, then it won't be very hard for you to prove it then by showing us the clear anomolies in your hand histories. (Assuming sample size not too small)

Simply send an email to support and we will send you all your hand histories for review. You don't even need to mention this post...
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  #93  
Old 10-17-2005, 12:48 PM
Eder Eder is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged *DELETED*

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #2820330724: Tournament #13821765, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/10/16 - 19:12:58 (ET) Table '13821765 38' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: ludonja (28865 in chips)
Seat 2: ballarat (10115 in chips)
Seat 3: Eder (4405 in chips)
Seat 4: TxDozerMan (24606 in chips)
Seat 5: heusden (12600 in chips)
Seat 6: Brawnson (23015 in chips)
Seat 7: SHACA (10035 in chips)
Seat 8: gregisme56 (6185 in chips)
Seat 9: Sweetwater44 (1790 in chips)
ludonja: posts the ante 25
ballarat: posts the ante 25
Eder: posts the ante 25
TxDozerMan: posts the ante 25
heusden: posts the ante 25
Brawnson: posts the ante 25
SHACA: posts the ante 25
gregisme56: posts the ante 25
Sweetwater44: posts the ante 25
Sweetwater44: posts small blind 100
ludonja: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Eder [As Ad]
ballarat: folds
Eder: calls 200
TxDozerMan: folds
heusden: raises 200 to 400
Brawnson: calls 400
SHACA: folds
gregisme56: folds
Sweetwater44: folds
ludonja: calls 200
Eder: raises 3980 to 4380 and is all-in
heusden: calls 3980
Brawnson: folds
ludonja: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Jd Kh]
*** TURN *** [6c Jd Kh] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [6c Jd Kh Qs] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Eder: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
heusden: shows [Ks Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
heusden collected 9885 from pot


<font color="red"> 5 for 5 this weekend </font>
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  #94  
Old 10-17-2005, 12:56 PM
Ro-me-ro Ro-me-ro is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged *DELETED*

[ QUOTE ]
Eder: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
heusden: shows [Ks Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
heusden collected 9885 from pot


5 for 5 this weekend

[/ QUOTE ]

Clearly you forgot about the last 10 times you were dealt AA, where you won. Infact the last time you lost with AA was 2005/09/24 - 23:39:10.

Edit, yes it is possible that you are just talking about "out draws" in general. You don't specifically mention losing 5/5 with AA. If so then I humbly appologise.
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:23 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Likely Not Rigged

I'm not convinced that any auditors have seen source code.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:39 PM
Eder Eder is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged *DELETED*

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Eder: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
heusden: shows [Ks Qh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
heusden collected 9885 from pot


5 for 5 this weekend

[/ QUOTE ]

Clearly you forgot about the last 10 times you were dealt AA, where you won. Infact the last time you lost with AA was 2005/09/24 - 23:39:10.

Edit, yes it is possible that you are just talking about "out draws" in general. You don't specifically mention losing 5/5 with AA. If so then I humbly appologise.

[/ QUOTE ]

I posted for twisted humor to amuse myself at work....I play Pstars and am happy to be there. The 5/5 is regarding 5 similar tourney exits in a row this weekend, 2 AA, 3 KK money in preflop on 3 different sites...guess they're all rigged lol. cheers!
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  #97  
Old 10-17-2005, 02:47 PM
mbpoker mbpoker is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Likely Not Rigged

from http://www.pokerstars.com/rng_audit.html

"Cigital analyzed the source code, entropy sources and documentation for PokerStars' RNG implementation. In addition, a sample RNG output stream provided by PokerStars was subjected to - and passed - FIPS 140-1 testing. Using standard methods for exploiting RNGs and having full access to the source code, Cigital was unable to break the PokerStars RNG. Cigital found that the PokerStars implementation adheres to the current state-of-the-practice in generating random seeding values."
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:15 PM
FlFishOn FlFishOn is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Likely Not Rigged

Good deal. Stars has maybe been honestly audited. I've done my own tests there and have no doubts.

I'd bet my bankroll that the same is not true for Party.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:07 PM
Jim Easton Jim Easton is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Likely Not Rigged

Party has been analyzed. I am making no claims about validity or techniques or anything, only that there has been one.

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Old 10-17-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars Is Rigged *DELETED*

[ QUOTE ]
It is sad that party and stars are rigged. I can't prove it and I wish they weren't but there are too many unusual events (especially with all-ins in the tourneys).

This is also why they are the biggest sites, due to the sucessful "evening out" distribution of money to the players. ie. strong players win less than they should and weak players lose less than they should.

That is why I'm a losing poker player.

[/ QUOTE ]

fixed. apologies if I missed the sarcasm
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