Said something stupid...

Nate tha' Great · #1 09-01-2004, 07:43 PM

10/20 game at Trump Casino in suburban Chicago. I have A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG and raise. Three players and one of the blinds cold call.

Flop is Axx with two diamonds. I bet and am called in two places.

Turn is a small diamond. I bet and the first caller, who is a pretty aggressive player, raises. It's folded around to me.

I say "I'll pay you off" and call.

Having said that, can I fold the river if he bets again?

daryn · #2 09-01-2004, 10:03 PM

no.

Sundevils21 · #3 09-01-2004, 10:35 PM

no

daryn · #4 09-01-2004, 10:45 PM

from mike caro:

a guy who knows you will call is NOT bluffing.

mostsmooth · #5 09-01-2004, 10:47 PM

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no.

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why not?

daryn · #6 09-01-2004, 10:50 PM

read above

Gamblor · #7 09-01-2004, 11:49 PM

from mike caro:

a guy who knows you will call is NOT bluffing.

Above, you answered his "Can I fold?" with a "no".

So you advocate calling a bet that can not be a bluff?

daryn · #8 09-01-2004, 11:51 PM

oops.. good thing someone is paying attention. i meant "yes".

he should fold.

NLfool · #9 09-02-2004, 12:04 AM

at most 6/12 - 10/20 games I've been in a turn raise is almost a sure sign of having better than 1 pair. So I too agree you can not call. But I seriously think people are too paranoid and think others are trying to bluff them more often that actually occurs. And I come from LA, land of the biggest crazies.

oljumpstart · #10 09-02-2004, 08:34 AM

Are you asking if you are required to call, since you said you would pay him off? Either way, I believe you can and should fold.