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Old 11-27-2005, 02:10 PM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Stars $650 for Atlantis

About 1 hour in give or take

I have QQ in MP and 3300.

UTG limps 50

EMP (covers) raises to 200

I make it 550 to go.

UTG folds, EMP calls

Flop (1225) 479r

EMP checks, I bet 1000

EMP puts me all in.



Ruh Roh, I feel like I'm in a leg hold trap.

I have 1650 left (33BBs), the pot is 4900.

Getting 3-1 is beautiful, but if he has AA/KK, I am buried and not getting the right price.

I can play with 33BBs, but I'd rather have more.

Does he do this w/ 88,TT,JJ, bluff, enough for me to <font color="red">RISK MY TOURNAMENT LIFE!!!! </font> [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I raised PF to better define my opponents hands. I want to know if UTG is messing around limping a big pair, and if EMP pushes over top of my raise, I'll have a decision to make, but if he flat calls, I can usually be sure I'm ahead.

Now I'm not so sure.

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Old 11-27-2005, 02:13 PM
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If he were me, you'd be dead because I'd have AA or KK.

But, he's not me. And this is a satellite in which a very small % of players get paid. I think this move is made by enough players getting fancy with AK or 88, plus the chance he's got JJ or TT to make this a call.

I'm wincing when I do it. But I call.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:23 PM
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Let's ignore 88 as I don't think that's too likely and just focus on TT-AA. I can easily see TT-QQ playing this way. I think AA is a little more likely than KK (and both a little less likely than TT-QQ). I also don't think it's too likely to be up against a set. So all things considered I think you're slightly ahead of his range and I'd make the call. Even putting 99 back in his range and you're still 50/50 with odds.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:23 PM
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no effing way am i betting 1K on this flop w/ QQ and then folding for the rest.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:31 PM
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suck it up and call.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:34 PM
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no effing way am i betting 1K on this flop w/ QQ and then folding for the rest.

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Yup, that's pretty much it.

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Old 11-27-2005, 03:35 PM
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suck it up and call.

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agreed.

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Old 11-27-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Ruh Roh

I agree with the rest of the lot. Even though I very often play AA/KK (especially AA) exactly like this with these stacks, I don't think you're beat 75% of the time here. Makes me want to puke a little but I'd have to call.

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Old 11-27-2005, 04:06 PM
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I go into my time bank a little, puke in my mouth a little, and call.

He shows JJ, turn and river blank, MHIG.

With Adanthar's post about <font color="red">TOURMANENT LIFE </font>, and the fact that I liked that Scooby and Shaggy picture, I thought this hand would be a good combo of both.

Can't fold in that spot, and I was lucky to win, but if we give the villian the range of JJ-AA only, I'm a 2-1 dog and getting the right price.

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Woodguy
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:14 PM
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low flop, high pair situations are pretty much dictated by the pot odds unless you have a good read.. getting 3:1 this is an easy call as you are really only worrying about 2 hands that would raise preflop and be this bold on the flop.. I think I'm calling with 2:1, and anything less I'd have to really think about it.. This format, arguably, pulls you in both directions.. only about 5% of entries get a seat , but you have 30 minute levels.
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