Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????

[cwsiggy]

We all know how good he is in tourney play. There is no question about that and he's having a good WSOP so far, but why oh why is he so bad at cash games?? What is the definitive reason. I believe I read once that Negreanu said he lacks a fundamental knowledge of the cards which I find hard to believe. Is is that difficult to be good at both??

[SNOWBALL138]

Phil is a horrible steamer.
When you steam in a tournament, the worst you can do is lose your buy in. When you steam in a cash game, you can lose big time.

The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

[vindikation]

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The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Jesus did you see Todd Brunson FREAK the phuck out at the dealer last night, when she made a mistake and almost delt the turn without him acting. "What are you doing???" "What were you thinking?"

I was so so about him before that, but now Todd Brunson looks like a complete cock. (not that anyone cares what I think about him)

[mlagoo]

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The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Jesus did you see Todd Brunson FREAK the phuck out at the dealer last night, when she made a mistake and almost delt the turn without him acting. "What are you doing???" "What were you thinking?"

I was so so about him before that, but now Todd Brunson looks like a complete cock. (not that anyone cares what I think about him)

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Was this on Poker Superstars?

And yeah, Todd Brunson has always struck me as kind of a douchebag. I can imagine its hard being Doyle Brunson's son... but I don't know, something about Todd Brunson just makes me dislike him. Maybe it's just his general demeanor. Looks like a spoiled brat (which he likely was).

[vindikation]

Yeah and he quite possibly has THE worst hairstyle in all of poker history. He should be the posterboy for http://www.mulletsgalore.com

[RicktheRuler]

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Looks like a spoiled brat (which he likely was).

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What does a spoiled brat look like? My first thought is not of someone that looks like Todd Brunson that is for sure.

Why was he likely A) Spoiled and B) a brat? Becuase he father has a lot of money? Or because of they way he looks.

On a side note, most people that come from little ($$ wise) and later in life have a lot ($$ wise) often make an extra effort NOT to spoil their children.

[mlagoo]

A spoiled brat, to me, generally looks like a disgruntled person while doing something that most people would be very happy doing (I.E., playing poker professionally).

And besides that, quit being anal. My impression of him is that he's a spoiled brat. Your impression is clearly different. I certainly don't care enough to argue about it.

[tomdemaine]

If you watch the heads up championship or any hellmuth game he seems to have a case of table coach denial.
"oh yeah keep going in as 3:1 dog against me"
when the other player was about 55:45 dog

He's a very good player but self denial can cost you when you sit with the same people for a looooong time in a cash game.

[cwsiggy]

Wow- so you think it mostly comes down to steam control and not his lack of knowledge of cash game strategy vs tourney strategy. Makes sense.... I can't believe Negreanu's statement could be even close to being correct.

[SNOWBALL138]

Negraneau may have also been refering to the fact that Phil is not respected in any game besides hold em.