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Old 07-16-2005, 02:41 PM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

I just sat down a round or 2 ago, and I was reading this forum mostly so no real reads. The opener in the pot seems pretty solid from the few pots i noticed.

This hand sort of confused me. Not really sure where I could have improved , help me out.

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Hero ($411.60)
SB ($332)
BB ($330.20)
UTG ($356)
UTG+1 ($340.50)
MP1 ($195.80)
MP2 ($339.50)
CO ($281.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $8.

Flop: ($66) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, MP2 calls $40, CO folds.

After the flop I feel like hes gotten stubborn with a pocket pair most likely/or he flopped nines full, and is setting a trap.

Turn: ($146) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks. Im checking behind because either he has 2 outs, or I do most likely right? So if a safe river card comes I can put in a big bet if he checks, or just call any bet that I have induced him to make if he does fire at the river.

River: ($146) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, MP2 calls $120.

Dream card- but my bet will look like a bluff. The bet flop when checked to, then bet river but not turn-- always looks like a bluff. So whats the best ammount to bet here?
Final Pot: $386
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:42 PM
spoohunter spoohunter is offline
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

Go $160 on the river. If he's calling $120, he'll call $160, and it looks even more suspicious.

Standard whole way through IMO.
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Old 07-16-2005, 04:54 PM
TrailofTears TrailofTears is offline
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

The PF action is confusing, and CO's min-RR is indicative of a poorly played big PP or an isolation raise of a bad player. Only you can tell us which it is likely to be. Also, they might be scared of your cold-call, which makes a river value bet the best option if that is the case.

I actually like an underbet here. The kind of bet that you might make with a 88 here, trying to figure out if it is good. This might induce a raise from QQ.

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Old 07-16-2005, 05:16 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

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I actually like an underbet here. The kind of bet that you might make with a 88 here, trying to figure out if it is good. This might induce a raise from QQ.


[/ QUOTE ]?? pretty easy for 88 to figure out if hes good, check.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

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I actually like an underbet here. The kind of bet that you might make with a 88 here, trying to figure out if it is good. This might induce a raise from QQ.


[/ QUOTE ]?? pretty easy for 88 to figure out if hes good, check.

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I think you misread this one, OP rivered the 2nd nut and I think he wanted to know how to extract max value when it was checked to him.

That being said I think that he has a 9 or an underpair I see a overpair minraising that flop, hard to put him on anything but mb a9s. I'm surprised he called I'll prob just bet 80-100 on that board hoping for a reraise or a call from a small pp.
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

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Go $160 on the river. If he's calling $120, he'll call $160, and it looks even more suspicious.

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Uh, a bit result oriented, eh?
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Old 07-16-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

You played this hand perfectly.
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: PS 2/4 NL 3 way pot with overpair of jacks

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Go $160 on the river. If he's calling $120, he'll call $160, and it looks even more suspicious.

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Uh, a bit result oriented, eh?

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indeed
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