Purely Formulaic SNG - Page 2

flyingmoose · #11 07-03-2005, 07:24 PM

Who besides Raptor 12-tables?

Jesus, I don't even want to think about trying it. Playing 12 tables at the same time would make my eyes bleed.

pergesu · #12 07-03-2005, 07:28 PM

ZeeJustin does, and I'm pretty sure a couple other guys do too.

Not sayin it's easy...but people do it.

Freudian · #13 07-03-2005, 07:32 PM

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Do a search for ICM. A bot would basically make all +$EV plays according to ICM, and that's all that's needed to beat the 11-33s.

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A big weakness of ICM as it is, is that you have to guess as to what the others players range is (and often be wrong, which is often overlooked when people claim a call is +1.3% or whatever).

A player independent bot doing ICM calculations would be like a blind leading the blind.

Of course one could always assume a medium range and be slightly off most of the time, but it would still probably be able to play profitable SnGs at the lower limit. Just not optimal.

flyingmoose · #14 07-03-2005, 07:41 PM

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Do a search for ICM. A bot would basically make all +$EV plays according to ICM, and that's all that's needed to beat the 11-33s.

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A big weakness of ICM as it is, is that you have to guess as to what the others players range is (and often be wrong, which is often overlooked when people claim a call is +1.3% or whatever).

A player independent bot doing ICM calculations would be like a blind leading the blind.

Of course one could always assume a medium range and be slightly off most of the time, but it would still probably be able to play profitable SnGs at the lower limit. Just not optimal.

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I agree with you that it wouldn't be optimal, but I do think it could beat the god-awful 11 and 22 players for a decent clip.

Freudian · #15 07-03-2005, 07:48 PM

If Saabpo could do it without postflop play, a bot knowing when to push or check/fold a flop would win more.

jeffraider · #16 07-03-2005, 08:34 PM

It's doable, but it would be a bunch more complicated than the NL Ring strategy that you've got. I think it would need to at least somewhat take into account the stack sizes of the other remaining players.

I'd like to see the NL Ring strategy one because I keep getting pwned at NL Ring.

Blackjack · #17 07-03-2005, 08:44 PM

what was your rate in the 25 NL?