PP $11 - Okay, so I'm ascared of pushing on the bubble. BFD. 3 Hands

[playtitleist]

edit - Added Blinds

Yeah, I got SNGPT last week. And yeah Hand #1 is close given a looser range, but the others are way +EV. But, I just can't commit to pushing crap. Y'all will tell me this is long term -EV, but I just can't do it. Well, usually.

Do all the expert push-botters push all three of these?

**** Hand 1 ****
Seat 1: gary212121 ( $1466 )
Seat 3: grubberlynn ( $2660 )
Seat 7: braveheartjj ( $1285 )
Seat 8: playtitleist ( $2589 )
Blinds(200/400)
gary212121 posts SB (200)
grubberlynn posts BB (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ 6c 4c ]
braveheartjj folds.
playtitleist folds.

(Shortie's stack was a big consideration on this fold)
**** Hand 2 ****
Seat 1: gary212121 ( $1866 )
Seat 3: grubberlynn ( $3260 )
Seat 7: braveheartjj ( $685 )
Seat 8: playtitleist ( $2189 )
Blinds(200/400)
playtitleist posts SB (200)
gary212121 posts BB (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ 4h Qc ]
grubberlynn folds.
braveheartjj folds.
playtitleist folds.


**** Hand 3 ****
Seat 1: gary212121 ( $2131 )
Seat 3: grubberlynn ( $2375 )
Seat 7: braveheartjj ( $2005 )
Seat 8: playtitleist ( $1489 )
Blinds(250/500)
playtitleist posts SB (250)
gary212121 posts BB (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ Jc 4c ]
grubberlynn folds.
braveheartjj folds.
playtitleist is all-In [1239]

[junkmail3]

Then ask for a refund on the SNGPT.

[zambonidrivr]

3rd is the only shove here

[playtitleist]

Okay, on the surface this response could be seen as useless, however it is actually probably valuable in that it tells me I might not using SNGPT correctly and Eastbay is gonna kick my ass for making this post.

If that is the case, sorry EB. Now I'm afraid of pushing and EB.

[bluefeet]

**** Hand 1 ****
depends on how active i've been, how loose they are, yadayada.

(Shortie's stack was a big consideration on this push)
**** Hand 2 ****
FYP - an "any two" here. you've cleared bigstack, gary just CAN'T call but with a couple hands. very easy push

**** Hand 3 ****
3bb's. you're fortunate to have an equality of stack sizes here (FE)...making this an ever more 'most push'

[playtitleist]

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gary just CAN'T call but with a couple hands.

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....for the same reason I folded. Right? Ugh.

[junkmail3]

[ QUOTE ]
Okay, on the surface this response could be seen as useless, however it is actually probably valuable in that it tells me I might not using SNGPT correctly and Eastbay is gonna kick my ass for making this post.

If that is the case, sorry EB. Now I'm afraid of pushing and EB.

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The response should be viewed both ways.

bluefeet took care of the non-obnoxious part.

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(Shortie's stack was a big consideration on this fold)
**** Hand 2 ****
Seat 1: gary212121 ( $1866 )
Seat 3: grubberlynn ( $3260 )
Seat 7: braveheartjj ( $685 )
Seat 8: playtitleist ( $2189 )
Blinds(200/400)
playtitleist posts SB (200)
gary212121 posts BB (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to playtitleist [ 4h Qc ]
grubberlynn folds.
braveheartjj folds.
playtitleist folds.

[/ QUOTE ]Sometimes I wimp out in a situation like this and simply raise to 2xBB. That's probably enough to scare BB off all but premium hands (given the stack sizes and the fact that I might also play this way with a premium hand in order to lure someone into the pot) and leaves me with more than the short stack if BB puts the pressure on me and I fold.

I wonder how bad this play is. Probably pretty bad, but I'm not quite sure how to quantify the difference between this play and a push.

[junkmail3]

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I wonder how bad this play is.

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Worse than you could ever know.

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I wonder how bad this play is.

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Worse than you could ever know.

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Well, in my defense: I'm making this play less and less often. But, I'd still be interested in seeing the difference quantified.