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Old 11-04-2005, 09:32 PM
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Default Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

When you look at how all religions that you have no belief in have progressed, it should be obvious that they are just stories, myths and legends that have been passed down through the generations. If one certain sect of stories happen before the same set of stories (in a different religion) it lends them more credibility because they obviously couldn’t have copied off the later coming religion.

With that in mind, did you know that sixteen different gods that predated Jesus lived very similar lives, more specifically they all:

- claimed to be the son of god
- were born of a virgin mother
- the mother’s name was Mary, or a derivitive of the word Mary
- were in a temple, scolding and training elders by age twelve
- the ruler of the land, fearing the son of god was born, tried to put him to death
- told by someone greater than they, moved to a foreign land to save their life
- began their ministry by age 30
- ended their ministry by age 33
- killed on the cross

In case you were wondering, the sixteen were:

Chrishna of India, 1200 B.C.
Hindoo Sakia of the Hindu, 600 B.C.
Thammuz of Seria, 1160 B.C.
Wittoba of the Telingonesic, 552 B.C.
Iao of Napal, 622 B.C.
Hesus of the Celtic Druids, 834 B.C.
Quexalcote of Mexico, 587 B.C.
Quirinus of Rome, 506 B.C.
Prometheus of of Caucasus, 547 B.C.
Thulis of Egypt, 1700 B.C.
Indra of Tibet, 725 B.C.
Alcestos of Euripides, 600 B.C.
Atys of Phrygia, 1170 B.C.
Crite of Chaldea, 1200 B.C.
Bali of Orissa, 725 B.C.
Mithra of Persia, 600 B.C.

I personally find this to be very damaging to the validity of Christianity.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:39 PM
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Would love to see some supporting documentation...
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

This isn't exactly what the OP is saying, but here's an old Bossjj reference to something similar. http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

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Would love to see some supporting documentation...

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would it make any difference?

how good would the evidence have to be before you agreed the bible has the resurection story wrong?

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Old 11-04-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

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Would love to see some supporting documentation...

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Here you go:

http://www.awitness.org/essays/bkup/...ified_saviors/
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:07 PM
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Would love to see some supporting documentation...

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would it make any difference?

how good would the evidence have to be before you agreed the bible has the resurection story wrong?

chez

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Basically nothing will change my mind about the Resurrection. I was just curious to see what evidence was used to support his idea.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

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Would love to see some supporting documentation...

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would it make any difference?

how good would the evidence have to be before you agreed the bible has the resurection story wrong?

chez

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Basically nothing will change my mind about the Resurrection. I was just curious to see what evidence was used to support his idea.

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Really? I don't think I've every said that "nothing will change my mind" before.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Jesus was a copycat. (Sklansky, did you know this?)

The "authority" seems to be Kersey Graves. You can find is full book on the net (Kersey Graves - full text ).

On balance I would have to take Graves article, in it entirity, as a very poor scholarly work, if at all.

A refutation, there are others, can be found at Richard Carrier refutation

Unlike the OP, I would not represent his statement (about 16 similar myths) as factual or true. I would worry about my credibility in doing so.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:21 PM
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Really? I don't think I've every said that "nothing will change my mind" before.

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The Resurrection is an essential tenet of my Faith that I am at ease placing my total trust in.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:25 PM
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Really? I don't think I've every said that "nothing will change my mind" before.

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The Resurrection is an essential tenet of my Faith that I am at ease placing my total trust in.

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I understand your position of placing total trust in the idea (as I place my total trust in many scientific axioms), but I would change my views completely if proof was presented, and at the very least, look at my views from the inside out, if a theory was presented, whether or not it was yet a fact.
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