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Old 12-23-2005, 11:00 AM
IggyWH IggyWH is offline
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Default PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

With the new VIP Program coming out, I got a look at tenative rewards and points for those rewards and how the structure was going to work a couple months ago. I thought it was a great idea and with the lack of RB at Party, I was seriously considering moving my play to PS exclusively.

I've only played a small handful at Stars just to see what all the fuss was about. I never really knew how FPP's were earned. Today, I looked it up and here's what I saw for cash games :

One (1) Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

$0.50 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $0.50/$1.00 and lower

$0.75 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2

$1.00 for
pot limit poker games
no limit poker games
fixed limit poker games with stakes $2/$4 and higher

Okay, I have no real numbers to back up a claim here so maybe someone can confirm or deny them for me. Aren't PL/NL players really taking it in the ass here?

I did a quick lookover of 1006 raked hands played on party at $100NL. Of those 1006 raked hands, I have a total of 291 hands that were raked at least $1. This seems really bad for someone who wants to stockpile FPP's for the VIP program.

You need 10,000 FPP's to stay atop the monthly VIP program. That would mean for me playing .5/1 NL, I'd roughly have to play 43,195 hands per month.

I don't have numbers to look at the limit play, but this looks like I, personally would be quite screwed. Agree/disagree?
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:05 AM
TylerD TylerD is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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You need 10,000 FPP's to stay atop the monthly VIP program.

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have i missed something?
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:07 AM
IggyWH IggyWH is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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You need 10,000 FPP's to stay atop the monthly VIP program.

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have i missed something?

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As I said, I saw the tenative plans for the VIP program and there is now an active page on PS for their VIP program. I'm not at liberty to post it, but I'm sure it'll make its way to 2+2 very soon.
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:12 AM
MaxPower MaxPower is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/main.html
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:14 AM
IggyWH IggyWH is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/main.html

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^ There you go Ty
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:28 AM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

Shame the FPP store isn't updated yet
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:14 AM
Ro-me-ro Ro-me-ro is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

What took you so long...

Oh and enjoy!
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:30 AM
IndieMatty IndieMatty is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

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What took you so long...

Oh and enjoy!

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Anyone want to do a cut and paste or screenshot, i need some holiday cheer at work.
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:32 AM
Bradyams Bradyams is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

I couldn't figure this out from that link, but here's a quick question:

If you earn the 1500 VPPs in just a few days to get to silver status, do you immediately start earning the extra 50% in FPPs, or does that not go into effect until the following month?
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars & FPP\'s, Getting Screwed?

My first impression is that this is a good program for fixed limit players from 1/2 to 5/10 due to the FPP-structure and moderately good for 10/20 and up. Right?
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