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Old 12-03-2005, 04:47 PM
PokerFink PokerFink is offline
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Default Vegas 5/10nl

I know this is a silly question and the answer is, "it depends," but in general how much of a step up is 5/10nl from 2/5nl? I've played lots of 1/2nl and a decent amount of 2/5nl and 5/5nl and I beat both comfortably.

Let me try phrasing it this way. Is the step up from 2/5nl to 5/10nl bigger or smaller than the step up from 1/2nl to 2/5nl?

Also, which vegas casinos regularly spread 5/10nl besides Bellagio? Which games are capped/uncapped?

Thanks.
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Old 12-03-2005, 06:00 PM
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I know this is a silly question and the answer is, "it depends," but in general how much of a step up is 5/10nl from 2/5nl? I've played lots of 1/2nl and a decent amount of 2/5nl and 5/5nl and I beat both comfortably.

Let me try phrasing it this way. Is the step up from 2/5nl to 5/10nl bigger or smaller than the step up from 1/2nl to 2/5nl?

Also, which vegas casinos regularly spread 5/10nl besides Bellagio? Which games are capped/uncapped?

Thanks.

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take it from someone who has just moved up...very big step.

Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:24 AM
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Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.

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This is from someone who is nowhere near these stakes (yet) so i could be wrong, but wouldn't this make sitting with $500 or so and playing super tight, almost short stack strategy pretty profitable?

Plus, if you are thinking of moving up, this might be more comfortable a transition
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Vegas 5/10nl

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Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.

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This is from someone who is nowhere near these stakes (yet) so i could be wrong, but wouldn't this make sitting with $500 or so and playing super tight, almost short stack strategy pretty profitable?

Plus, if you are thinking of moving up, this might be more comfortable a transition

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nope, you are much better off taking that $500 to a 2/5 game where you are more comfortable to begin with.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:07 PM
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Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.

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This is from someone who is nowhere near these stakes (yet) so i could be wrong, but wouldn't this make sitting with $500 or so and playing super tight, almost short stack strategy pretty profitable?

Plus, if you are thinking of moving up, this might be more comfortable a transition

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nope, you are much better off taking that $500 to a 2/5 game where you are more comfortable to begin with.

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no, you do not want to buy short in a big game...take it from me...you buy in for 500 in a 5/10NL game, stacks are as big as 10K, avg stack is 2.5-3K.

you pick up AA on the button, super 10K maniac in EP makes it 200 to play. 2 callers and you have 500, obviously you push but against this type of game, chances are your AA is only a slight fav...this is just a very rudementary example why it's not smart.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:54 PM
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Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.

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This is from someone who is nowhere near these stakes (yet) so i could be wrong, but wouldn't this make sitting with $500 or so and playing super tight, almost short stack strategy pretty profitable?

Plus, if you are thinking of moving up, this might be more comfortable a transition

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nope, you are much better off taking that $500 to a 2/5 game where you are more comfortable to begin with.

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no, you do not want to buy short in a big game...take it from me...you buy in for 500 in a 5/10NL game, stacks are as big as 10K, avg stack is 2.5-3K.

you pick up AA on the button, super 10K maniac in EP makes it 200 to play. 2 callers and you have 500, obviously you push but against this type of game, chances are your AA is only a slight fav...this is just a very rudementary example why it's not smart.

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How can AA ever be a "slight favorite" in holdem?
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Vegas 5/10nl

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Players are much more aggro and laggy and bluff rate is a lot higher.

With that being said, don't sit with less than 2K at any 5/10NL game in vegas but you should really have ~5K in front of you.

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This is from someone who is nowhere near these stakes (yet) so i could be wrong, but wouldn't this make sitting with $500 or so and playing super tight, almost short stack strategy pretty profitable?

Plus, if you are thinking of moving up, this might be more comfortable a transition

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nope, you are much better off taking that $500 to a 2/5 game where you are more comfortable to begin with.

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no, you do not want to buy short in a big game...take it from me...you buy in for 500 in a 5/10NL game, stacks are as big as 10K, avg stack is 2.5-3K.

you pick up AA on the button, super 10K maniac in EP makes it 200 to play. 2 callers and you have 500, obviously you push but against this type of game, chances are your AA is only a slight fav...this is just a very rudementary example why it's not smart.

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Surfinillini,

You are officially an idiot.

Regards,
Slickpoppa
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:33 PM
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The thing with 5/10 is that, despite the occasional exceptions, you won’t win with simple tight straightforward play. If you’ve been playing tight and then push your $500 stack after a raise and a re-raise, nearly everyone will (correctly) put you on QQ+. You need to do more than wait for good hands and then value bet them against donks; unlike 1/2 and many 2/5’s.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:35 PM
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MGM and Wynn generally spread it on weekends and sometimes on weekdays. Neither has a cap on the buy-in. I would say that 5/10 is a big step up from 2/5. Most people buy in for a grand; buying in for 5k is only necessary if you want to cover most/everyone at the table.
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:17 PM
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Most people buy in for a grand; buying in for 5k is only necessary if you want to cover most/everyone at the table.

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true, but in Vegas everyone likes to sit behind huge stacks. Last time I was there someone bought in for 10K into the 5/10NL game just to act like a bigshot I guess.
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