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#1
12-28-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: Weißbier
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[ QUOTE ] is check folding here awful? [/ QUOTE ] You check. 1. He bets $350. 2. He bets $600 You? [/ QUOTE ] does his turn bet size change his hand range any? im not so sure our action should be different based on his bet size. but if im not folding, im cring all in both times. 
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#2
12-28-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: Weißbier
It doesn't seem like it changes anything other than what are effective odds are going to be. If i agree with my above and say i am behind 2:1 then against the $600 bet it's going to be tricky because i have to be 100% sure i'm going no more money on the river when i'm ahead meaning i can happily checkfold to a bet, if on the river he shoves all his hands, then i've gone 1400:800, anyway that's getting a little too nitpicking.
Against $350 i have a decent shot at getting my showdown odds and the fact against $350 it makes me feel very sad to checkfold bottom set, which i did.
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#3
12-28-2005, 12:56 PM
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Re: Weißbier
Wow, I would never fold there for $350. Could easily be AA/KK.
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#4
12-28-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: Weißbier
easily is a but much. you said AA KK may check for pot control, yes they may, but rarely anyone does it. just the same way midhigh limit forum when raised on the river always say 'he could be bluffraising', sure he could, but it rarely happens.
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#5
12-28-2005, 12:59 PM
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Re: Weißbier
Could be JJ, too.
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#6
12-28-2005, 01:01 PM
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Re: Weißbier
4 way hand, 12 overcards to your hand could drop, or, 'i raised JJ preflop, got the flop i wanted, i bet', but yea, 'could'.
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#7
12-28-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: Weißbier
I think if he bets $600 I fold. If he bets $350 I call and c/f the river. Just seems so weak. You could so easily have a draw, why isn't he betting bigger to build a pot and protect his hand? QJ is quite possible for you. Looks like he is very tentative about his holding when he's betting $350.
Edit: And guys will often raise bigger with hands like TT and 99 out of position trying to take it down preflop and if they don't then hoping to either hit a set or have the best hand postflop. This smallish raise against a bunch of limpers looks more like AA/KK than TT/99 to me. Although obviously that is player dependent.
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