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Old 12-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default I want to buy Hand History data

I'm working on a project that will model opponents for Texas Hold'em. To do this I need lots of Hand History files for different types of players (loose, tight, aggressive, passive, etc). And to create an accurate model, they can't be observed hands, I need to have the player hole cards for at least one player.

Ideally I will be able to get 30k-50k hands per *type* of player. I would be willing to pay for this information.

Does anyone know of a website where I could buy this? Would anyone be willing to sell me their data?

If privacy is a concern, I could write a small utility that would "anonymize" your Hand History files before you send them, so that your name & opponent names are changed to something different .
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

Or you could just tell the user to open the HHF in a text editor and do a find/replace of their name with 5 X's so you couldn't run your un-anonymizer once you have the file.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

Do you have any idea how long that would take for 50k hands? Keep in mind they are in about a bajilion different files.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

I'm working on a project that will model opponents for Texas Hold'em.

u a bot-builder?
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

No, this is not for botting.

Also, I will give a free lifetime license key to PokerManager to anyone who is willing to do it.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

No, this is not for botting.

what else could this be for, other than something to do with AI?
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

There are many poker problems that could be solved if there was a good poker bot avilable for testing.

It doesn't actually have to play online.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

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There are many poker problems that could be solved if there was a good poker bot avilable for testing.

It doesn't actually have to play online.

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sorry, i disagree.

developing *any* AI product based on data from above average to good players using play patterns is trouble. now, for the first time, due to better databases, this info is readily available in large sample sizes and thus is a threat to the game.

jmho
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:28 PM
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There are many poker problems that could be solved if there was a good poker bot avilable for testing.

It doesn't actually have to play online.

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"What was once thought can never be unthought" - Johann Wilhelm Möbius in Friedrich Dürrenmatt's 'The physicists'
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: I want to buy Hand History data

why not just use observed hands that go to showdown?
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