QJo vs TAG 3-bet on a Jh 9s 8h board

I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum. I wasn't sure if this belonged in the micro limits forum or this one since it was a 6 max table.

Anyhoo, I'm looking for comments on my turn fold, should I have just called down? Raise?

SB is a TAG player while BB is TP PF, and LP on the flop.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Should I have raised PF? I'm fresh to 6 max and have basically been basing my PF strategy on the SSH PF Tight game starting hands (mid, late and blinds).

Flop: (3 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

With TP and a gutshot straight draw, I liked my hand and felt it was good for a raise, however SB's 3-bet into me set off some alarms. I thought he might have flopped the straight here, what else would he 3-bet with?

Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero folds.

I'm not sure what BB has here, he could been on a FD or OESD, I chose to fold here fearing I was already beat. Had it been HU I would have called the turn and the river to see a showdown.

Bump, comments anyone?

[LImitPlayer]

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Any way im looking at it, you have 6 BBs in the pot on the turn and at best have 5 clean outs.


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Which is why I folded, I figured I had to be beat and the pot wasn't big enough to justify continuing with the hand.

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There is 8 BB's in the pot when it is your turn to act not 6, and this is a draw heavy board, getting 8:1 I am calling down here. You have TP, a gutshot and can still outdraw 2 pair

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Any way im looking at it, you have 6 BBs in the pot on the turn and at best have 5 clean outs.


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Which is why I folded, I figured I had to be beat and the pot wasn't big enough to justify continuing with the hand.

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There is 8 BB's in the pot when it is your turn to act not 6, and this is a draw heavy board, getting 8:1 I am calling down here. You have TP, a gutshot and can still outdraw 2 pair

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I realize that there are 8 when it gets to you. But going into the turn there are 6 BBs, and that helps me factor what they might be doing. The top pair is already behind even a KJ, which we cant know what they have without the preflop raise.

It's close, because on the turn you're getting 8:1 while needing 8.2:1, but i honestly think you're behind and losing to BBs river card too many times for this to be profitable any further.

[imported_CaseClosed326]

Blahhhh raise preflop. Call down.

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Blahhhh raise preflop. Call down.

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Aye, this thread seems MUBSy to me, is a mubsy a word? Can it be from now on?

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Blahhhh raise preflop. Call down.

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Surely you know better than to give advice without explaining yourself? On this standard, that's about as good of an argument as "fold pre." to me.

You're opening the hand, and you have the button, and there are fresh blinds to steal. Easy raise.

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I thought he might have flopped the straight here, what else would he 3-bet with?


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Considering you didnt raise PF, he could have a variety of two pairs here, and feels like charging your possible flush draw. Your raise to BB's bet may look like you want a free card(heh), which rings the bell for SB to protect his hand.

Just my .50 cents...(that i gain when im in SB and you limp QJ)

[aLOWdAkING]

Open-raise preflop, entire hand plays different.

I'd probably call down though.

[MattC]

lots of draw and 2 pair out there. I think I call down.