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Old 08-17-2004, 10:19 PM
carniplant carniplant is offline
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Default I hate this hand

Really loose 2/4 table, people cold call on any street , I hate the way i played postflop, didn't know how i should protect my hand, should I raise the flop or just call and raise the turn because of the huge pot and the fact that people don't seem to fold much or just try to get to a showdown a cheap as possible and pray my hand is good.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (25 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (21.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls $8 (All-In), Button calls, Hero folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls.

River: (37.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 39.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 34.50 BB, between CO, UTG and MP2.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 5 BB, between UTG and MP2.</font>
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:36 PM
prayformojo prayformojo is offline
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Default Re: I hate this hand

Ugh. You 3bet pre-flop and were capped by a short stack. This is a great chance to check/raise the flop. MP2's bet is a surprise, but when CO raises all the more reason to raise and force UTG and MP1 to call 3 cold, and force the button to call 2, cutting their odds considerably in this big pot.

The hand is completely different after that point, but suffice it to say that the turn fold is appalling. There are over 35 BB in the pot, you have to call two bets, and you still have top pair top kicker! I can't see too many circumstances in which you can fold AK with a K high, relatively uncoordinated board with this much money in the pot.
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Old 08-18-2004, 11:27 AM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: I hate this hand

Bet the flop. This type of back-cap from CU should be ignored. You cannot depend on him to bet and you should not try for a checkraise. It's not like a checkraise actually protects your hand anyway. With luck you can 3-bet.

Don't coldcall the flop, reraise.

I agree with the turn fold. It strongly appears that UTG has a set and I think MP2 has another one. The pot size has to be weighed against drawing nearly dead and the likelihood that it will cost three more bets to see the river and some more after that if you want a showdown.

I put UTG on JJ and MP2 on 88.
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