LA Weekly-Phil Helmuth Article(very long)

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And the number of events isn't as important as the fact that he is third all time in WSOP bracelets.

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Of course the number of events is important. If you play 30 WSOP events a year, you better win a few.

Just counting bracelets is a horrible way to evaluate tournament skill. Not only does it fail to consider how many attempts you've made, it also fails to consider the size of the field. Older players are going to have higher numbers just because the fields were smaller.

I'm sure there are tons of players with superior results to Phil on a per tournament basis. Phil is very good, but not the third-best player ever.

He is also a known cash game donator. Games fill up when he sits. This is probably partially because he lacks the technical skill of excellent players, but also because he is so tilt-prone.

"Daniel Negreanu in All In magazine said the top players lick their lips when they see him coming to a cash game."

it's funny when Daniel Negreanu says stuff like that, when people call him up and offer him rides to cash games that they are playing in.

So now we have concluded almost that two players I thought were some of the greatest playing are cash game donors. I give up on this crap, it doesn't make my game any better and you get a different story on a different player every time you talk to someone. Continue the debate guys, but I think I'll shy away from thinking about this stuff anymore. Opinion, favortism, all get in the way. Both are better players than me, I can assure you of that!

Go to barrygreenstein.com and read his Player Analysis section.