I don't see any topics about ratboy's big laydown

[sekrah]

Huh? I've seen people fold Kings preflop.

[sekrah]

This isn't a party freeroll buddy. Pro's make standard lay downs with Q-Q all the time.

It's not difficult at all. If you think it was a difficult decision then you are not a good tournament poker player.

[JimHammer]

Another reason to lay them down is one of the players is all-in. He stays out of the way and hopes the short stack gets eliminated. That way he moves up in the money.

FWIW, there's an example in TPFAP where it's the right play to lay down pocket aces.

[KSOT]

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This isn't a party freeroll buddy.

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Wait, are you sure? I could've sworn that... oh wait, douchebag # 1 already made that observation. Thanks anyway though.

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If you think it was a difficult decision then you are not a good tournament poker player.

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Can't argue that, I always choke before the final table.

[ggbman]

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This isn't a party freeroll buddy. Pro's make standard lay downs with Q-Q all the time.

It's not difficult at all. If you think it was a difficult decision then you are not a good tournament poker player.

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Lol i really don't know what it is with you. It's an impressive laydown that very good players can make. It's great that you know that, yet you feel the need to come in make dumb ass comments like, "If you think this is great laydown then you're not good at tournament poker." Jesus the guy made a post asking a question, why do you feel the need to be a dick?

[DyessMan89]

I dont the laydown itself was that great, but I was impressed at how quickly he made it. Thats all.

[Jackal]

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I still don't see how it's easy to lay down the 3rd best hand in that spot. How could you put one of them on KK or AA so confidently?

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3 raises in front of him and the third was an all-in so you know he can't be bluffing and likely has AA, KK or AK. Why get your money in at 50-50 or possibly 20-80. Add to that, one person might be eliminated and you go up in the money and it's pretty easy to lay QQ down.

[Jedster]

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I still don't see how it's easy to lay down the 3rd best hand in that spot. How could you put one of them on KK or AA so confidently?

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I know this is threaded to death but I can say one thing for sure -- I've played about 100 live NLHE tournaments and I have never, ever seen someone call a third raise with QQ when it was good. In fact, I don't think I've seen it with KK. Part of the reason for this is that third raises are very rare -- usually because third raises only happen when a player has AA or KK. However, I have seen KK fold to a third raise (ironically, QQ called the third raise and made a set, though the KK would have made a bigger set...of course, as advertised, the third raiser had AA).

What is really interesting to me is that Stan Goldstein put in a third raise with JJ, and Lindgren called pretty quickly -- of course he was worried about AA, but you could tell that he thought there was a good chance Goldstein didn't have it; I think he had a read on Goldstein, judging by the A9 hand as well. (Yes, I know there is almost no chance Lindgren is laying down KK after putting in a 2nd raise, but my point is that I don't think he thought Goldstein had it.)

[Eric Draven]

It's a hard hand to laydown, but not impossible. I've laid it down Pre-Flop at Stars 20+2 in similar situations. If there's a raise and a push it's likely that atleast one person has AA, KK, or AK and your a coin-flip at best.

[3rdEye]

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I still don't see how it's easy to lay down the 3rd best hand in that spot. How could you put one of them on KK or AA so confidently?

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If you're going to play QQ in that spot, I think you have to have a VERY player-dependent read on the situation.