Could this top the AJ hand?? who knows..

[Scuba Chuck]

I can't choose either one, although I lean towards calling because the fold option should say "fold, because ICM says so."

[gumpzilla]

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edit: Ok, ICM HATES calling here.

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What range did you assume for the initial raiser?

[microbet]

Try any two.

[11t]

If the short stack had just doubled up I'd call this instantly but as it stands I pretend I didn't see my hand and let it go.

I'd prolly call with TT+ here though, I just think you are too short to let that go and TT should have his hand dominated a vast majority of the time.

[curtains]

I think it's clear fold...

[curtains]

Also this IHateUballer guy is an idiot, everytime I make some really obvious play against him and he has a good hand and I get lucky he starts cursing me out like a moron and telling me how stupid I am. Its happened a few times now on different accts of mine.

[gumpzilla]

I don't have Eastbay's tool, so that will take me a moment. In the meantime, another question: if he's pushing any two, are you assuming that 50% of the time BB will call and win, the other 50% of the time that BB will call and lose?

EDIT: Okay, it looks like you have ~34% equity when you call and win, and on average an equity of ~25% when you fold, assuming he's pushing with any two. In this situation, the numbers seem to suggest that it's a reasonably close fold. A tighter range increases your average equity when you fold, since SB is less likely to win, although the range has to tighten up pretty substantially to seriously diminish your winning chances. Nevertheless, since I think the range probably will be tighter than any two, this probably is a fold, according to ICM. That surprises me.

[schilling38]

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I think it's clear fold...

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explain?

[raptor517]

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Also this IHateUballer guy is an idiot, everytime I make some really obvious play against him and he has a good hand and I get lucky he starts cursing me out like a moron and telling me how stupid I am. Its happened a few times now on different accts of mine.

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ahaha, his aka is worldsgrtst. hes quite solid actually. but then again, what do i know about being solid. holla

[microbet]

I did it on Eastbay's Program and it doesn't allow for the BB to call. I don't think the BB will call anywhere near 50% of the time, if you call. He's gonna just hope you bust out. Given that he will have a very tight calling range, IMO, I don't think his calls are going to help you.