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Old 12-28-2005, 11:03 PM
Garland Garland is offline
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He's solid and hasn't gotten out of line from EP.

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Villain opens UTG, I 3 bet 88,

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Fold 88 from here. Your hand is cheese compared to his range of hands, and you have to contend with the rest of the field.

As the hand plays, you ram and jam your boat on the flop and turn. He thinks you're going overboard with KK/QQ vs what's sure to be AA. I don't know when I'd stop, if I'd actually stop. Perhaps 10 bets, maybe...

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:34 AM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
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If I'm ahead, he'll call a 4th bet/river. 2 more bets. If I'm behind I'll call a 5th bet/river. 3 more bets. Win 2 or lose 3. Doesn't that mean just call down?

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No. If you apply this to every situation where you don't have the nuts, you'd never raise. And then you'd ask yourself, "Why am I a -6 BB/100 player? I always call down when I stand to lose 1 more bet than I can win." The thing is, in every situation, if you calculate it out that way, you'll always stand to win x bets when ahead, and lose x+1 bets when behind. This isn't taking into account the times that your opponent misreads your hand and pays off with a worse hand, or slows down with a better hand. Lastly, if your read is correct, you should be ahead something 99.x% of the time, and you should be pumping the pot.
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