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Old 11-26-2005, 07:10 PM
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Default 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

limper is 65/5 bad.
SB is 26/10 TAGy.

Haven't been at the table long so no hand-reads.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $20.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds...

Weak-tight or bet-saving?
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

No way I fold this, I think this is a little too weak tight. One of them could easily be raising w two pair trying to represent the straight. Second player could be raising with bottom end or also some type of flushdraw/pair. I just call down unless another heart hits
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:28 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

Good fold imo. Looks like your best case scenario is a split and this could cost you many more bets to get to showdown.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

Weak tight unless CO is super passive.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

Let's think about possible hands they had.

The SB re-raised the Button preflop. He most likely had AA, KK, or AK. He then led out on the 10-high flop and only called the button's raise. He then led out on the turn when the Jh hit. Why would he lead out knowing he was going to be raised?

Wouldn't CO have raised pre-flop if he had big pocket pairs or AK or AQ prior to Button raising? Very likely he had Ax suited or KQ. And why did CO raise that SB bet? If he made the nut flush, why would he want to drive out Button and SB? My guess is he hit a straight and wanted to drive out anyone on a 4-flush.

Thus, my guess is that SB had AKh or AQh, and CO had something like KQ offsuit, or maybe even QJ like you.

I believe at best you were chopping the pot, but most likely losing to either a K high straight, or nut flush. This is Party Poker after all [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. imo, you made the right call (or fold in this case).
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

I like it.

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Old 11-27-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

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you're splitting with 2 opponents at best, and at worst you're drawing dead.
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Old 11-27-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

i &lt;3 your avatar
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

Yes fold--you are beaten given the aggression you've shown on the flop. One player may try to run you off your hand but the pot is protected. You are also vunerable to a redraw if in fact you are ahead; you are drawing dead to a flush while the river could easily give one of your opponents a better hand.
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 I flop the nuts, then fold the turn. QJo

Honestly, I fold this when I'm playing well, and if I'm stuck I will delude myself into calling and then berate or congratulate myself later. That's as honest an answer as I can give.
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