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K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
First hand, no reads.
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (7 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero folds. I'm getting odds for a gutshot, if I didn't discount them because of the flush potential. I could also split the pot with another king as well. Good fold? I found that some of my weaknesses were calling on the flop without proper odds and without discounting appropriately, so I'm making a conscious effort to notice these plays and really think them through. |
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
Easy fold.
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
easy fold,
if your posts are getting less than 5 replies, try posting fewer but more difficult to play hands cdl |
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
Super-easy fold.
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
you have to fold, your gutshot isn't that good considering it could complete a flush. Pot is small as well.
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
Ya, even I fold this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
crap guys. maybe i'm wrong, but i call this.
why do we think someone has a king again? or a flush draw for that matter? do we think SB or BB is checkraising?? i understand that it's good to discount outs and all that, but we're talking about one small bet here people. and the pot is getting bigger... |
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
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crap guys. maybe i'm wrong, but i call this. why do we think someone has a king again? or a flush draw for that matter? do we think SB or BB is checkraising?? i understand that it's good to discount outs and all that, but we're talking about one small bet here people. and the pot is getting bigger... [/ QUOTE ] I'd call it too. After discounting the king outs for a split/flush, we're still getting implied odds with our excellent relative position. If this is a fold, it's certainly not an easy one. |
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
I agree with Redd. Super-easy fold is a huge exaggeration. I think it's a slim call. How many outs do you guys want to discount this to? You can't go less than 3, and with 3 you only have to make up a couple BBs. You have two streets worth of betting and at least 4 opponents with which to make up well more than you need.
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Re: K5s, posting in the CO, flop decision
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crap guys. maybe i'm wrong, but i call this. why do we think someone has a king again? or a flush draw for that matter? do we think SB or BB is checkraising?? i understand that it's good to discount outs and all that, but we're talking about one small bet here people. and the pot is getting bigger... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, plus it's a *real disaster* to be chopping a pot with four players putting money into it... A flop call is fine. It's by no means a spectacular call (you discount your queen of flush and worry about the flush redraw if you hit your hand on the turn), but it's not a super-easy fold. This is a gambling situation. After 7 people see the flop and there are two callers before it gets to you, I don't mind taking the gamble. You have the added bonus of being in pretty good relative position to the flop bettor, and excellent position to EVERYONE. Or you can fold it. You're not taking or leaving very much at all. |
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