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Old 06-22-2004, 11:10 AM
mosch mosch is offline
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Default Two points

First of all, the ruling is correct. You can't keep an exposed card, no matter how much you want it, and no matter how sweet it would've been.

Secondly, you wouldn't have gotten quads. By exposing your eight preflop, the dealer wound up dealing one extra card pre-flop. This means that the flop eight would've been the burn card, before the turn, and the turn eight would've been the burn card, before the river. Thus giving you a final hand of 'one pair of eights'.

You would've had a pair of eights on a KJcXXX board.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:25 AM
Wingnut Wingnut is offline
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Default Re: Two points

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By exposing your eight preflop, the dealer wound up dealing one extra card pre-flop. This means that the flop eight would've been the burn card, before the turn, and the turn eight would've been the burn card, before the river.

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Are you sure that's correct? Most places I've seen, an exposed card becomes the before-the-flop burn card, so that the rest of the hand proceeds as if no errors had been made. Foxwoods may be different...
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: No quads for me, ruling question

I explained a situation to provide some background for a ruling question. Simple as that. I really could give two shits about what you think about my post, it isn't a bad beat story. Your logic is incorrect, but this is a stupid pointless thing to argue about. End of discussion.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:43 AM
TheGrifter TheGrifter is offline
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Default Re: Two points

Nope, they used the exposed card as the burn card. The burn card would have been the ten I was given after the deal and the board would have been the same.
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: No quads for me, ruling question

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Had I called the floor would I have been able to keep the card?

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Not anywhere I play.

Regards,

T
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Old 06-22-2004, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Two points

TheGrifter is correct. The dealer will continue to deal the hand as normal then give the top card of the deck to the player with the exposed card and the exposed card will now be the burn card. So the flop would be the same flop as if no cards were exposed.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: No quads for me, ruling question

The ruling was correct. Sucks when it goes against you, but sometimes the exposed card is crap, and the new card you get helps your hand. It all evens out in the end, and the rule applys to everyone. In a perfect world ther would be no dealer errors, but it happens, and I agree with the rule (player neither punished by being forced to play with a card that is known to other players, nor given unfair advantage by being able to choose to accept card or not).
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: No quads for me, ruling question

This happened on the World Poker Tour on the travel channel, on the Party Cruise/Limit Hold 'Em event. One of Steve Z's cards were exposed, and he was given the burn card. (He ended up getting KK).
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:52 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default Re: Two points

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First of all, the ruling is correct. You can't keep an exposed card, no matter how much you want it, and no matter how sweet it would've been.


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really?

just the other day at chumash casino an old fart in EP got dealt Qd face up, and he kept it and the dealer kept dealing.

1) yeah, that is STUPID of him to do that
2) it made my Qc 3h all the more easier to fold

granted this was at $2/4 where I heard the same guy ask the dealer if it was ok if he could raise about 20x during the course of 3 hours.

seriously, he was like scared the 4x he asked the dealer, "can i (pause) (more pause) re (pause) raise????"
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