Biggest Fish I've ever run across

[grouchie]

Just one hand as an example, but this is by no means an extreme example.
Fishy, yes.
Lucky, hell yes.
oh well

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

Button ($48.5)
SB ($94.55)
BB ($50)
UTG ($94.5)
UTG+1 ($190.8)
UTG+2 ($47)
Hero ($51.2)
MP2 ($126.05)
MP3 ($64.05)
CO ($19.5)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($13.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP3 calls $8, CO calls $15.50 (All-In), Hero calls $7.50, MP3 calls $7.50.

Turn: ($60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP3 calls $15.

River: ($90) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero calls $16.70 (All-In), MP3 calls $16.70.

Final Pot: $123.40

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero has Kh Ad (one pair, kings).
MP3 has Td 3d (two pair, tens and threes).
CO has Ks As (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins $123.40. </font>

[LokiV]

Shrug. It happens all the time... we all have stories like AA being cracked by runner runner flush, etc. That's why those people keep playing.

[ricdaman]

That's NOTHING! His hand was suited! That's a premium hand at the tables I play at. I just had my As cracked by a guy with 82o in MP after a raise and re-raise pre-flop.

Flop came T92, turn 2.

Now THAT'S a fish!!! (yes, after about another hour, he was broke, and I had won my money back).

[SkippingGoat]

That bad beat story was totally awesome. It was food for thought that, after fully digested, will no doubt make me a better poker player and wiser in the ways of the world. Thanks goruchie!

[Richie Rich]

Admit it. You wanted him to call your cheap bet on the turn (relative to the pot). You did not want to push your stack all-in and scare him out. So, he called your small bet with one card to come and was lucky to catch one of 5 outs that happen to beat you. It happens.

But realize that you earn most of your poker profit when opponents make incorrect calls. If they never got lucky every now and then, then you wouldn't ever get paid off.

[pr0crastin8r]

I think I've got you beat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I can't format it because the bison converter doesn't support crypto, but here it is... All night people have been calling all-ins on draws...

Game #192071663: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2004/11/12 -
01:24:25 (EST)
Table "Mint" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 2: pr0crast
($77.75 in chips)
Seat 3: magicth ($205.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Greg1110
($233.50 in chips)
Seat 5: dredawg ($72.50 in chips)
Seat 6: FightNow
($138.25 in chips)
pr0crast: posts small blind $1
magicth: posts big
blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to pr0crast [6c 3d]
Greg1110:
folds
dredawg: calls $2
FightNow: calls $2
pr0crast: calls $1
magicth: checks
----- FLOP ----- [3h 6h 8s]
pr0crast: checks
magicth: checks
dredawg: checks
FightNow: bets $8
pr0crast:
raises to $75.75 and is all-in
magicth: folds
dredawg: folds
FightNow: calls $67.75
----- TURN ----- [3h 6h 8s][Qd]
----- RIVER
----- [3h 6h 8s Qd][Qc]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
pr0crast: shows [6c 3d]
(Two Pairs, Queens and Sixes, Eight high)
FightNow: shows [7c 9c] (A Pair of
Queens, Nine high)
pr0crast collected $156.50 from Main pot


On that hand he had a 32.83% chance of outdrawing me, and I guess those odds were good enough for him. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img])

[nicky g]

"I think I've got you beat"

No, you don't. It's a massive overbet but someone semibluffing with an open-ended straight draw is not exactly unusual.

[Randy Burgess]

... there's one thing I don't understand: why do you expect to auto-win with a one-pair hand in a loose game? From my 2 months of experience, TPTK can be a big hand head-up, and bigger still if you can define your opponent's hand such that you believe you are dominating him - e.g. he has a smaller pocket pair (and misses the flop) or a dominated Ace (and an Ace flops, etc). But I find it's much harder to read loose players to this degree online. And even in live play, I find that a single-pair hand is very vulnerable in super-loose games.

It's easy to call an opponent who sucked out on you a fish, meaning he doesn't play "correctly." But if the game is full of players like that, it's better to develop a strategy to take their money rather than rely on strategies that work better in tight games.

So rather than bemoan the fact that hands like top pair (whether flopped or in the pocket) go down in value in super-loose games, I'd prefer to spend my time thinking about what hands correspondingly go up in value, both preflop and on the flop. To me this gets into some of Sklansky's essays (even though he was talking mostly about limit) discussing why tough players often don't do as well as they should in good games.

[fimbulwinter]

[ QUOTE ]
"I think I've got you beat"

No, you don't. It's a massive overbet but someone semibluffing with an open-ended straight draw is not exactly unusual.

[/ QUOTE ]


ummmm....
re-read the hand....

fim

[grouchie]

I wasn't actually posting this as a bad beat story.

Maybe i just didn't express myself like I had intended, which is that I can't actually beleive people make plays like that. I've heard about it, but this is the first time in the few months that i've been playing that I've actually witnessed someone playing total and utter crap for an evening.

It took me off guard is all.