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Old 12-20-2005, 02:44 PM
CORed CORed is offline
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Default Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....

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When do we get to seriously start using the "I" word?

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Right now. I don't think it will happen with the current makeup of Congress, but, after 2006, if Democrats gain control, look out. But hey, wholesale violation of constitutional rights is nothing compared to lying about a blow job.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: If it turns out that Bush broke a law with domestic spying....

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Thank God for an American president with the balls to take decisive action. Both parties in congress couldn't organize a circle jerk if their lives depended on it.

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Haha, Bill's great.

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You honestly can't make this stuff up...

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Old 12-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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I am sure you read with interest Orin Kerr's volokh post analyzing the legality of this scheme. He concludes that the wiretaps may be constitutional (although he allows that his is a strained analysis -- a very significant concession considering the source), but concedes that they are likely illegal.

What say you now?

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I have no idea. I'm still plowing through some of the VC comments on Orin's post. Lot of complicated issues. My evidence prof was on Fox last night talking about the subject. He felt that it was OK, but he's really more of an evidence guy than a con law guy, so who knows. My current feeling is that it depends a lot on the specific facts of the program. For example, if we had NSA posts in the Sudan picking up US-bound cell phone calls in the Sudan, then I'd feel better about it, from a legal perspective, than vice versa. But then again, that's kind of a trivial thing to worry about in the middle of a war, so who knows?
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:14 PM
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Thank God for an American president with the balls to take decisive action. Both parties in congress couldn't organize a circle jerk if their lives depended on it.

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Did you mean divicive ?
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