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View Poll Results: What % of the time does the button have aces or AK?
<25% 3 17.65%
somewhere in the middle 9 52.94%
>75% 5 29.41%
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:37 PM
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I Also there is a strong feeling by many out there that Syria may have been the beneficiary of WMD largesse from Saddam.

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It has come to this? A "strong feeling"? Is this the same "many out there" that have "a strong feeling" that "intelligent design"/creationism should be taught instead of evolution?

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Dont be an ass. Let me put it to you a little more definitively. I think there is a very large chance that WMD were transported to Syria. Many people I know think this as well.

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Consider me extremely depressed.
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:38 PM
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You evidently don't hang out at a lot of 7/11's, do you?

Long Live The King!!!!

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Old 10-15-2005, 06:42 PM
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Iraq delivers a 1400 page report detailing the elimination of WMDs--in Farsi. Q

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Surely Arabic?
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:46 PM
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Iraq delivers a 1400 page report detailing the elimination of WMDs--in Farsi. Q

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Surely Arabic?

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Picky, picky, picky.

If there are nits to be picked, it's 18-4 they're gonna get picked!

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Old 10-15-2005, 06:49 PM
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Iraq delivers a 1400 page report detailing the elimination of WMDs--in Farsi. Q

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Surely Arabic?

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Picky, picky, picky.

If there are nits to be picked, it's 18-4 they're gonna get picked!

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John and I are on the same side of this debate. I'm just curious as to why it would be written in Farsi if it was.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:12 PM
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M,

We've probably been over this before, but I would have had far less trouble with the decision to depose Saddam had the rationale simply been put in moral terms: "He's a bad guy, and we have the moral obligation to end the suffering of the Iraqi people." Of course, you see why we can't use this sort of language.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:15 PM
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Nicky, I know Iraq has few speakers of Farsi, but for some reason I thought the report was written in Farsi. I'm probably wrong.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:26 PM
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If politicians were never reelected because they lied to the public nobody would ever get reelected.

That being said...I think they wanted the war so much (for what they thought were legit reasons) that they would not be dissuaded unless there was slam dunk proof that Saddam DIDN'T have WMDs anymore. Which of course was not going to happen.

My vote isn't there...it's a little bit of both options. But certainly Cheney lied like crazy by implying Saddam was linked to 9/11. No doubt there. Bush wasn't as blatant but there is no doubt he knew and approved what Cheney was saying.

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George Bush is a politician, agreed?
Politicians like to be re-elected, agreed?
The lack of WMDs would be found out if we invaded, agreed?
So why would Bush take the chance to not get relected by openly lying? What did he gain from that "lie"?
Wouldn't you agree that had Bush just stomped all over Afghanistan and done absolutely nothing about Iraq, he probably could have won big over any challenger? So why take the risk?

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Old 10-15-2005, 09:38 PM
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LOL you and others believe this? Wow what a strong case.

Maybe we should invade Syria to find Saddam's WMDs. And if they aren't there we can invade Iran where Saddam's WMDs were moved via Syria according to my neighbor's kid's best friend's dad who vacuums at the State Department.

And when we don't find them in Iran we can invade North Korea since my dog's barking indicates she believes she heard the WMDs were transported there.

Then all our troubles will be over.

Bush's blunder and reelection is going to bite us in the ass in the coming years. If we actually did NEED to launch a preemptive war we are behind the 8 ball in getting international support.

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I Also there is a strong feeling by many out there that Syria may have been the beneficiary of WMD largesse from Saddam.

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It has come to this? A "strong feeling"? Is this the same "many out there" that have "a strong feeling" that "intelligent design"/creationism should be taught instead of evolution?

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Dont be an ass. Let me put it to you a little more definitively. I think there is a very large chance that WMD were transported to Syria. Many people I know think this as well.

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Old 10-15-2005, 10:26 PM
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I think there is a very large chance that WMD were transported to Syria. Many people I know think this as well.

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I think that there is a very large chance that you've experienced some cognative dissonance on this issue. And I also believe that if there was any actual evidence of this whatsoever it would be part of every Bush speech and every McClellan press gaggle.
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