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  #81  
Old 10-09-2005, 02:57 AM
sawseech sawseech is offline
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Default Re: This will turn out to be a good thing for us

the death of a breakeven winner

i'll need to get better at killing fish, because with him gone i have to do more of it myself instead of using him as a bagman
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Old 10-09-2005, 04:30 AM
JudoGirl JudoGirl is offline
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party is clearly making a good business move here, but if they offered a better rakeback/bonus system it would be checkmate on the poker world. i dont get it.

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Unlikely...they'd just make less profit. If their bonuses/rackeback got better, other sites would compete, and they'd all lose money. Low rakeback doesn't bring new players to the game, or even keep them. It makes the hardcore more money though.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:47 AM
Petomane Petomane is offline
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I agree. Losing the parasites should make the games better.

Blackjack and sidebets makes it more fish-friendly - encourages more people to wander in.

As for the rakebackers... well, they'll all be on tilt now.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:39 AM
John Ho John Ho is offline
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nh

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Now we have the rakeback, we have the bonuses; and they're the best things to have. But fish are a thing of the future. And if we don't get a piece of that action, we risk everything we have. I mean not now, but, ah, ten years from now.

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Old 10-09-2005, 07:01 AM
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I don't see any doom and gloom on the horizon for myself, but it's probably going to be a long cold winter for the "rakeback pros"

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Count me as one...I just estimated that, with the loss of good rakeback and bonus-whoring tables on skins, my income for this month dropped $3,000...that's huge to a player like me. 1.0BB/100 hands just might not cut it. Time to dust off the resume. A year of online poker for a living...it was fun. I miss it already.

Actually, I'll try to stick it out for a few months, let the dust settle, and see how it goes. However, a portion of my time each day will be devoted to seeing about getting back into the old accounting game.

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Good lucky MyTurn, I hope things work out for you. I think its kind of funny seeing a lot of the posts demeaning the "rakeback pros", most of them written probably written by marginal players. I for one think this might be the best for you, I think a lot of players (even the "non-rakeback pros") have made a lot of easy money b/c of the poker explosion and the internet. IMO this is a fad and only the best of the best are going to make a career (i.e. rest of your life and make enough to retire on). The fish will run out some day.
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:03 AM
Yeknom58 Yeknom58 is offline
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Nothing will change in the short term..this is bad for the long term..if you enjoy non-party sites this is probably a good thing.

This will only be good if it increases my profitability. This can be done in a basically two ways, you might split hairs but it really boils down to the following:
1. Rake is lowered (rakebake, bonuses, actually lowering the rake taken, etc).
2. The games get better. Ratio of good to bad players changes.

As far as I can tell the following is true:
1. The rake will only go up.
2. The addition of -ev bets will cause the bad players to go broke faster.
3. The loss of the skins lowers the total player base. I don't think the ratio of good/bad players will change so this isn't an immediate bad thing but the smaller player pool will cause the "goodness" of the games to be less sustainable over a giver time period.
4. The ability to over 4 table is probably bad for the worse players.

So in summary..you'll have less players to exploit...4+ tabling causes the bad players to go broke faster...the addition of -ev bets causes the bad players to go broke faster...So in the short run I think NOTHING will change..but in the long run this can only be bad (For the party players).
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:36 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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How many points before you get the watch?

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15000.

http://www.empirepoker.com/vip/vip_r...yers_club.html

Man I was getting close to the TV too. Was looking forward to selling it on eBay. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:52 PM
donthue donthue is offline
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For players like myself who mostly play at party anyway I welcome the skin break-up.
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:59 PM
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I'm pretty upset. Empire just bumped me up to VIP last week.

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Eff them... 2000 points and still no bump.

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I had like 500 points and got bumped.
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:07 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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omg awesome acct.

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Yes, now if there were only someone with a green name around to change his title to Consigliere. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

No it's not me, I wish I thought of it.
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