Freshly Played Hand

QTip · #1 11-07-2005, 02:03 AM

MP2 is our very own BostonZak, a fine player.

MP3 is unknown to me. I watched him call 3 cold PF...and that much is useful anyway.

What do you think of my play thus far? And the river?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

SippinSoma · #2 11-07-2005, 02:11 AM

Played perfectly. Value bet the river. I'm mucking if the donk raises though.

bambi · #3 11-07-2005, 02:17 AM

why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

SippinSoma · #4 11-07-2005, 02:42 AM

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why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

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Because against an oesd/flush draw and overcards/overpair, our equity lead (if any) is borderline. We need a safe turn card.

Cumulonimbus · #5 11-07-2005, 02:43 AM

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why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

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That'd actually only "win" 1/2 a BB more ($2). And the reasoning behind not 3-betting is that he was waiting for a safe turn card (i.e. not an ace,king, or queen).

bambi · #6 11-07-2005, 03:12 AM

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why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

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That'd actually only "win" 1/2 a BB more ($2). And the reasoning behind not 3-betting is that he was waiting for a safe turn card (i.e. not an ace,king, or queen).

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Waiting for the turn to what? Donk it? i mean if you think we are behind then you should check/fold the flop, if you think we are ahead then we should pump it.

If you want to wait to the turn, shouldnt the line be check/call, then checkraise turn?

bambi · #7 11-07-2005, 03:17 AM

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why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

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That'd actually only "win" 1/2 a BB more ($2). And the reasoning behind not 3-betting is that he was waiting for a safe turn card (i.e. not an ace,king, or queen).

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Waiting for the turn to what? Donk it? i mean if you think we are behind then you should check/fold the flop, if you think we are ahead then we should pump it.

If you want to wait to the turn, shouldnt the line be check/call, then checkraise turn?

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Tell me if my ranges are wrong, or my theories but here is pokerstove.

5,410,776 games 5.220 secs 1,036,547 games/sec

Board: 9h 8d 6d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 40.9036 % 39.74% 01.16% { TcTd }
Hand 2: 37.5508 % 36.30% 01.25% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 3: 21.5457 % 20.49% 01.06% { JJ+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+, KJo+, QJo }

It is on a flop like this you need to pump it while ahead.

Or am i wrong?

flopmonster · #8 11-07-2005, 03:36 AM

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why no 3 bet on the flop, would have won 1 BB more?

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That'd actually only "win" 1/2 a BB more ($2). And the reasoning behind not 3-betting is that he was waiting for a safe turn card (i.e. not an ace,king, or queen).

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Waiting for the turn to what? Donk it? i mean if you think we are behind then you should check/fold the flop, if you think we are ahead then we should pump it.

If you want to wait to the turn, shouldnt the line be check/call, then checkraise turn?

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Check/fold the flop....I guess you missed the odds section in SSHE

Alex/Mugaaz · #9 11-07-2005, 02:22 AM

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Played perfectly. Value bet the river. I'm mucking if the donk raises though.

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How can you possibly value bet the river.

etizzle · #10 11-07-2005, 02:34 AM

how can you possibly not value bet the river