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3 bad beats or play?
$10+1 $800
1.A 10/20 hand One calling station limps. Villain $750 CO min raises. Hero put him as a semi loose weak player. Hero AKo button raises 3bb. Calling station and villain calls. Flop A96 Calling station checks. Villain bets $100. Hero put villain on ace with weak kicker, not likely two pair. Hero raises $400 quickly. Calling station folds. Villain pushes. Hero calls. Villain A3 hits his 3 on turn. Hero was busted EARLY. Did hero raised too much? 2. A 75/150 hand 6 players. Chip leader $3400 BB calling every hand. Hero second place $1200. Hero UTG+1 88 min raises. Button $690 pushes. Hero pushes quickly to get chip leader out. Chip leader folds. Button AJ caught her J on turn. Hero crippled. During that 1-second thinking time, gap concept and survival never flash through hero’s mind, hero just concentrates on isolating the short stake. Bad move? 3. A 100/200 hand HU. Hero $2596 and villain $5404 swapping chips for a long time. Hero reads his own HU skill is PROBABLY better. Villain button limps. Hero AT raises $600. Button raises $1050, been doing that a lot. Hero puts villain on a lower hand. Hero calls. Flop 635 rainbow. Hero KNOWS hero has the best hand. Hero pushes with a read of 70% button will fold. Button calls. Button KJ caught his J on river. Now looking back, probably hero shouldn’t have pushed. Though the play is probably correct, but instead of coin flip, hero should have danced a bit more utilizing his better HU skill? |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
Hand 1 fine. Hand 2, don't min raise. You should almost never min raise unless you specifically want action. If the blinds are that high, just push. Hand 3 I think is fine. But there is no way you could possibly KNOW that you have the best hand here.
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
#1 - don't minraise the minraiser. call, or pop it 3x OVER his minraise (personally at this level, i'd just call w/position). PF, no prob...bad beat
#2 - confused. BB acted after Button...before you had a chance to "isolate" (unless you're saying he called the 600+, but not the additional 600?). anyway, you are pushing or folding at this point. 88 is about there IMO, especially w/ your read on BB. open push PF. considering you got your chips in the middle PF, no worries - bad beat (well, not that bad). #3 - meh...you could have just pushed after his limp. after his reraise, i'm putting the rest of the chips in PF. leaving 5'ish BB's for post flop play is silly. |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. William Wallace II blue face paint bloodthirsty amok.
Thanks guys. |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
Hand 1 is fine.
Hand 2 - Push PF Hand 3 - its HU, so post-flop poooooooosh |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
1. If I understand correctly you mini-reraised. That's just not a good idea. A better rule is 3xbb+2xlimpers or raisers total Don't give them the odds to draw out on you. The rest is just a bad beat.
2. You don't have enough of a stack to be making any fancy plays. If you are going to play it, push it. 3. Why wouldn't you just push when he reraised you? |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
Posting without reading other replies...
I'm practically a fish, so value my thoughts accordingly. Hands 1 and 3 I play the same way. Ace with good kicker is a good push in HU, and I really liked hand 1. Hand 2 I'm thinking you were a little aggressive. You have 5 players basically tied, on the verge of being short-stacked. From early position with this chip distribution I don't like to play anything I'm not ready to push on (because somebody else is bound to push), and I don't want to push with 88 in a 6-handed game. I'd be tempted to fold PF. Would probably give to temptation and raise PF, but fold to returned aggression. I think hand 2 is good if the chips were different, but you are in a precarious chip position. |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
I'm confused. In all 3 of these you're asking if you played them wrong and I get the impression you are doing so because you lost the hands.
You got sucked out on. If I posted every hand that I got sucked out on today, I swear, jakethebake wouldn't be able to TOUCH me in post count. I would be more concerned with hands where I am behind when the chips go in, or a fold I wasn't sure I should make. Not hands where I was ahead and got unlucky. |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
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3. Why wouldn't you just push when he reraised you? [/ QUOTE ] Though it is probably not far from optimal strategy, personally I don’t like to put first place on coin flips, even when I am a clear favorite without a pair preflop (including AK). I WANT FIRST PLACE. My usual approach is pushing AA, KK preflop, at least a strong pair on flop; being QUITE sure it is very hard for upcoming cards to suck out on me. The rest of the time, I try to grind my opponent down by 3bb bets. Reading 2+2 though is changing my play. I am doing more pushing now. |
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Re: 3 bad beats or play?
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Hand 2 I'm thinking you were a little aggressive. You have 5 players basically tied, on the verge of being short-stacked. From early position with this chip distribution I don't like to play anything I'm not ready to push on (because somebody else is bound to push), and I don't want to push with 88 in a 6-handed game. I'd be tempted to fold PF. Would probably give to temptation and raise PF, but fold to returned aggression. [/ QUOTE ] I am a fish too. This is exactly what I was thinking after the hand. |
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