109 bubble play

kurosh · #1 10-06-2005, 06:22 PM

100/200 level. 4 players left. I have 1800 on the BUTTON. UTG has 2k and has been min-raising at a reasonably aggressive pace. SB has about 3k and BB has around that too.

UTG min-raises to 400. I call with KJs on the button. SB calls and BB folds.

Flop comes K73 with two hearts (not what I have). UTG pushes and I call all-in.

#2 10-06-2005, 06:29 PM

I would have punished him more for the min raise...

kurosh · #3 10-06-2005, 06:29 PM

So reraise all-in PF?

#4 10-06-2005, 06:35 PM

If i am going to play the hand, i would at least raise him to 1000. pushing is good too. I try to get max effect for as few chips as possible. he knows i am willing to go the distance and call his push, so the 1000 makes a strong statement about my committment to the pot.

however, with the k hi flop, i hope he is just bluffing because he thinks you have nothing because you didnt raise him. The way it played out, i would have called this as well...

Nicholasp27 · #5 10-06-2005, 06:38 PM

u are willing to raise to 1000 with a 1800 stack?

why would u put in >50% of your stack without pushing?!?!?

#6 10-06-2005, 06:41 PM

I know people think differently than i do...i try to get max effect for min investment...if i am willing to push i will just raise him 1000 here...i think that effectively equals a push. not likely he will just call. If he pushes over top, he knows im calling, so he knows to play this hand he will have to put in all his chips. just something that i feel works well for me.

I am definitely open to criticism for this move...help me understand why a push is better. or, how a push is vastly different than this raise. Thanks.

pearljam · #7 10-06-2005, 06:52 PM

Fold pre flop, but in reality you need to move down in limits for now to play these if you want to be profitable, or just go back to limit.

kurosh · #8 10-06-2005, 07:45 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Fold pre flop, but in reality you need to move down in limits for now to play these if you want to be profitable, or just go back to limit.

[/ QUOTE ]You think that based off the 2 posts I've made or do you know my sn? Or is it just a baseless statement?

I think pushing is a bad play here... I can wait for a better spot. I also think KJs is too strong of a hand to fold to a minraise 4-handed. Folding is probably the safest option, but I think it might be +EV to call. Maybe it would be more clear cut if I had slightly more chips?

caretaker1 · #9 10-06-2005, 07:32 PM

I like the line.

$.02

z32fanatic · #10 10-06-2005, 07:50 PM

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100/200 level. 4 players left. I have 1800 on the BUTTON. UTG has 2k and has been min-raising at a reasonably aggressive pace. SB has about 3k and BB has around that too.

UTG min-raises to 400. I call with KJs on the button. SB calls and BB folds.

Flop comes K73 with two hearts (not what I have). UTG pushes and I call all-in.

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All in preflop or fold preflop. I would fold. Cold calling preflop is the worst play I think. You're calling 20% of your stack preflop only to fold the flop most of the time. Additionally, when you fold the flop, you'll only have 1400, much less FE than 1800 would give you if you folded. I would fold this preflop without a 2nd thought.
With that said, flopping a K is the best you could hope for i guess. All in on this flop.