K9s top pair, turn donk

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SB is 56/12/.6 after 27...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero???

[hobbsmann]

raises. sb has very donked out stats and probably picked up a straight draw or paired his J. your hand is still good here a lot.

[Carmine]

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raises. sb has very donked out stats and probably picked up a straight draw or paired his J. your hand is still good here a lot.

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What exactly do you consider donking stats. Only interested because I gather "donking" reads through observation rather than something I can get from numbers.

Maybe you're thinking this guys stats are so bad that you know he has no understanding of the game so when he makes even bottom pair he doesn't consider the the overcards, previous actions etc. Which I may agree with. However, with so little understanding of the game couldn't it also be true that he doesn't know how to utilze plays like check-raising, trapping the field, etc. with monster hands?

[Grease]

I'm folding here most of the time because SB is LP and the PFR is behind you and this board is pretty scary.

Weak-tight?

[ghostface]

The only monster here is AT or a set. We cant narrow his range that much.

[MrEngenic]

Hmm. I think I raise for a free showdown here, fold if 3bet. But maybe folding is correct with the preflop raiser and a preflop coldcaller behind you.
I wouldn't raise if it was HU, just call down.
The more I think the better I like folding this hand. I don't think we are good one out of 4 times here after the river card.

I think you have to raise this.

[bozlax]

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I'm folding here most of the time because SB is LP and the PFR is behind you and this board is pretty scary.

Weak-tight?

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56/12/.6 is LP? At best he's loose-aggressive-neutral, but with a VPIP of 56, .6 is reasonably aggro.

[Grease]

I see, well then would you agree that this is raise or fold, as we don't particularly want overcalls here on the turn?

Or would we rather wait and see what the PF does with the J coming?

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Hmm. I think I raise for a free showdown here, fold if 3bet.

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Me too