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Old 11-28-2005, 10:12 PM
ghostface ghostface is offline
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Default 88 flops set HU

Blah I wanted to shoot myself after this hand.

Villain is a TAG over a very small sample. About 20/13/2.

4 handed at Eurobet

Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps. All others fold.

Flop 9sb: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero c/r's CO calls.

Turn 6.5bb: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Edit: Hero bets and 3-bets, CO caps.

At this point I put him on at least J8 (which makes no sense and I wasnt really thinking it was possible), AA-JJ or 77. T9 is possible I guess.

River line?
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

i'd just check/call.

what are you 3betting the turn with besides 88/JJ? why is he capping??
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:19 PM
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OK, you say he is a TAG over a small sample... so he could actually be a donk, who knows. Anyway, lets think of some hands he could have...

AA-JJ
77
A-J
T-9

of these hands, 2 have you beat. There is no way you can fold on the river. If you are fairly confident that you are beat, check/call the river. There is definately a chance he has A-J, 77, AA, KK, QQ, or even J-8 which makes calling the river a must in that kind of pot.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

Folding was out of the question. If the river was a 9 or T it wouldnt cross my mind.

or a 6 for that matter.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

I bet/3Bet the river. There are only 3 combos of JJ (and if he has it then so be it) and I really doubt a Tight players as you describe him caps preflop with 46, 9T, and 69. He most likely has AJ or QQ-AA more so than JJ and is overplaying it. Fire away.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:52 PM
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I'm going three bets on the river, anything less and I think that you are losing value. The only hand that beats you right now is JJ. It looks to me that honkey is grossly overplaying AA or KK. I just can't be worried about JJ enough not to put in three bets on this river
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

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The only hand that beats you right now is JJ.

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Look closer. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:58 PM
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There are only 3 combos of JJ

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that's not very many I agree but how many combos of XX also play the way villain did
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

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There are only 3 combos of JJ

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that's not very many I agree but how many combos of XX also play the way villain did

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There is only one combo of XX [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Hehe. But seriously, I dont understand your question.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: 88 flops set HU

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The only hand that beats you right now is JJ.

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Look closer. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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yes, there is a straight draw, but really, is a supposed TAG capping PF with 96 or 64, I really don't think so. I meant to say logical hand
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