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Old 10-24-2005, 05:49 PM
AZK AZK is offline
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Default An interesting hand against Flawless...

He asked me to post this. I'll post my thoughts later, to hear what you guys say, but there should be something glaring at you.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($2327)
UTG+1 ($2004)
UTG+2 ($2489)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($2000)</font>
MP2 ($2769.50)
MP3 ($941)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2191)</font>
Button ($2225)
SB ($3693.70)
BB ($2585)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $65</font>, MP2 calls $65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $65, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $170</font>, MP2 calls $170, Hero calls $170.

Turn: ($735) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $750</font>, MP1 calls $750, MP2 folds.

River: ($2460) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 calls $1015 (All-In), Hero calls $1015.

Final Pot: $4490
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

he should have (AQ)/QQ/AA here all the time.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:07 PM
sawseech sawseech is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

chk coldcall and in any riv
hrmph
he turned it on you didn't he
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:14 PM
etizzle etizzle is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

yeah cold call is scary, but his range is AQ/AA/QQ/22 so you gotta call the river.

You'll lose alot of the time (because we certainly have to give extra weight to AA/QQ given the way it was played), but you will definitely win 30%+.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

EDIT: oops i didnt realize the Q was the diamond on the flop, thought the 7 was. Erased my question.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:51 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

Would he really play AQ this way? I think you are up against AA a damn good portion of the time here. The c/c on the turn is what I think tips it off. He is clearly not worried about giving free cards.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

I think it's the river push more than the check/call. He likes to make big laydowns on riv. So I think that's when I really know it's not AQ, though he probably wouldn't cold call AQ on the turn, though I don't know...
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

I don't like his play. I think he should push the turn (w/ these stack sizes imo there is no hand/ hand range where waiting is more profitable). This is assuming that the other villain in the hand is competent enough to notice flawless' coldcall.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

Legitmate question from someone trying to learn the nuances of 10/20.

Is it common to see a raise to $65 in MP with AA at this level? I've been watching a lot of 10/20 lately (in fact I'm watching it now) and from what I've seen people like to raise big preflop. 3.5xBB seems small with something like AA where you don't want a lot of people seeing the flop?
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

if he has aa or qq i dont really see how you can possibly avoid going broke here. youre getting 3.5-1 on the river with the 4th nuts. and you cant really play the turn differently.

i'd like to see what flawless's reasoning for checking the turn was.
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