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Old 10-24-2005, 07:27 PM
AZK AZK is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

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Is it common to see a raise to $65 in MP with AA at this level?

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This was probably more a function of our table then a standard type thing...you'd have to ask him...he does all kinds of stuff that isn't "standard"...not a bad idea breaking away from "typical" play...
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

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i'd like to see what flawless's reasoning for checking the turn was.

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Cuz he had the nuts and thought one of two villains hit flop big and wanted to win more money out of the two of them combined.
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Old 10-24-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

If I'm you, against a good player, and with your image which I assume is fairly aggro, I think I like raising the flop a lot more than calling. Not super relevant to this hand, but just something for you to think about.
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:02 PM
not_da_nizzles not_da_nizzles is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

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i'd like to see what flawless's reasoning for checking the turn was.

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He turned the nuts (or has the 2nd nuts with QQ) and no one has a diamond draw here so why not check and convince MP2 that his Q might be good?

Anyways, MP2's bet on the turn looks kinda bad at first but since they're 3 handed to the turn it would be difficult for CO to raise here without a real hand so MP2 ends up getting off pretty easy.

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Old 10-24-2005, 09:52 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

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If I'm you, against a good player, and with your image which I assume is fairly aggro, I think I like raising the flop a lot more than calling. Not super relevant to this hand, but just something for you to think about.

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really? raise a dry flop with a cold caller?

if im pfr that makes my life easy... he's not bluffing a cold caller, cant be semibluffing giving no draws, so he's either overplaying unconsciously top pair (unlikely for azk to do that) or has a set. bluff frequency is so low.

I like azk's flop play alot.

then again, I see what you mean; the pfr sees how dry the board is, and says, "why the hell would he fastplay a set here, obviously he doesn't have a set, Im going to check call the rest of my stack because he's bluffing."

Im not really sure what to say now.
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:15 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

I would also contend that if 22 is even in his hand range it is in there a very small portion of the time.
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:19 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

When I look at his turn cold call I am very sure I have lost the hand. AQ and 22 look unlikely, so now we are left with QQ, AA as being the most likely hands for him to have. However, I doubt I could ever find a fold on the river here getting around 3.4-1. I think if I sat down and crunched numbers and reads I could calculate that a fold was correct but there is no way in hell I would ever do so in the heat of the moment. I think if you paid this off everytime this situation occured you would not lose much money.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

What non-set non-AQ hand could he be putting you on here?
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

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he's not bluffing a cold caller

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ew.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:34 PM
mgsimpleton mgsimpleton is offline
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Default Re: An interesting hand against Flawless...

all i have to say is

when you cold call on Q72r after a cold caller you have a set

flawless knows this on the turn and doesn't give a crap. he also wants the other dude to come along for a joyride.

he has AA.

that being said i would donk off the rest of my stack with those odds.
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