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Old 09-30-2005, 10:21 AM
MrEngenic MrEngenic is offline
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Default overplaying against a LAG?

2/4 party.

EP is LAGgy. 35/2/4 after 200 hands and often overplays his hand.

Hero is BB with QQ.
EP limps, Hero raises, EP calls

Flop: 5KQr
Hero bets,EP raises and caps my 3bet

Turn: A
EP caps my 3bet

River: 8
EP caps my 3bet


Did I overplay?
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: overplaying against a LAG?

His numbers aren't that lag.

4 is high, sure, and because of it I don't have a huge problem going this many bets. BUT, once he caps the flop, you have to put him on either 2 pair or AA or KK. I'd prob go 3 on the turn as well, but you def got carried away on the river.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: overplaying against a LAG?

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His numbers aren't that lag.

4 is high, sure, and because of it I don't have a huge problem going this many bets. BUT, once he caps the flop, you have to put him on either 2 pair or AA or KK. I'd prob go 3 on the turn as well, but you def got carried away on the river.

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I disagree about 4 not being LAG. With a VPIP of 35, that number may be artificially low. Maybe his WtSD would be useful here to see if the high aggression is more betting or more folding based.

I'd put his range on the flop at 2-pair, 55, JT, or AK, with AA and KK being possible, but unlikely. He not only didn't raise pre-flop, but he also didn't limp re-raise. I'm starting to worry about that bigger set when he caps the turn-- not before.

I think I'd check/call the river: After the turn cap he could have 55 (3 combos), KK (3), KQ(3), AA (3), AK (9), or, JT (16). We're ahead of 15 and behind 22.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: overplaying against a LAG?

An aggr. # of 4 is pretty high even moreso with 35 vpip. m I'd bet/call the river hoping to see AQ or AK.
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: overplaying against a LAG?

Looks perfect until the river.

Once he caps the turn, I'd be getting slightly worried, even with your read. I think a bet/call is in order here. Your hand is definitely worth another 2 bets, but maybe not 4. JT looks somewhat likely.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: overplaying against a LAG?

It's hard to tell. I can't really see myself going 4 bets on the river with the 4th nuts, even against this opponent. But it also appears that it was the flop that made her hand. If she can raise the river given the action on all previous streets, I would be satisfied with just calling.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:03 PM
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2/4 party.

EP is LAGgy. 35/2/4 after 200 hands and often overplays his hand.

Hero is BB with QQ.
EP limps, Hero raises, EP calls

Flop: 5KQr
Hero bets,EP raises and caps my 3bet

Turn: A
EP caps my 3bet

River: 8
EP caps my 3bet


Did I overplay?

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Depends what you mean by "overplays his hand". Can't give an opinion until you elaborate on that.

What I mean is have seen him cap every street with one pair, two pair types of hands, or does he slow down without a huge hand. I would not put this many bets in against the biggest maniacs.
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