WinHoldem cheaters foiled

[TheRake]

Support's question to this guy was

"how much did they steal?"

Now that's funny

TheRake

[soah]

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I covered this in my post. To assume human minds won't improve a product is foolish. They will continue to get better. Chess computers can now beat anyone in the world with the exception of a handful of people.

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Chess is a game of complete information. Poker is not.

[prrthd]

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it could place data mining software in jeopardy as well.

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Party was so concerned about data mining that they recently added the feature that writes hand history to disk as you play (or observe). Basically, they added a feature to help data miners. I severely doubt pokertracker is a concern of theirs.

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Poker Tracker Pat emailed and talked to Party about getting the hand histories from the .hhf files and they said they did not have a problem with it. He works very closely with Party and he would never include anything in the program that would cause us to get in trouble. I am just a user of Poker Tracker by the way.

[Greg J]

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My concern was wether or not Party (or other sites for that matter) will face pressure from the "masses" to take away any and all advantages.

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I understand your concern, but I think you are worrying about nothing. I study public opinion, and the "masses" generally don't take time to inform themselves about such things. Most casual players (fish) who play for a fun time becuase it looks cool on TV don't know Pokertracker even exists, and if they did, would not really care too much. If there were a popular outcry, them Party et al might try to do something about it. However, there will be no popular outcry about Pokertracker.

[Phil Van Sexton]

If people are concerned about data miners, they can just change their screen name.

[crockett]

ok.....So.....

Your totally missing my point. Frankly, I don't care who develops it, it is totally irrevelant who it is. My point is that there are obviously a lot of people thinking about it and trust me someone has a very good shot at perfecting it. I don't care if their name is Frank or Bob. If there is money to be made someone will pick up the ball.

I'm probably sounding like some paranoid freak. Really, I'm not. I dont' have visions of waking up tomorrow in a world without PT or where interent Poker is ruined because of bots. I just thought it was an interesting subject and I try envision(sp?) were this thing is headed.

I've been very interested in the whole "Poker explosion". I still stand on my theory that it will die off fairly soon for various reasons. Of course, I'm hoping it doesn't because it's earning me extra money but I'm trying to be a realist.

[cov47]

Bots are going to make strides, sure. I'm satisfied though that Party and other large sites are going to do whatever they have to to squash bots. A casino has nothing if people believe their games are rigged or they permit cheating. Party has an overwhelming financial interest, and they are worth a lot of money. They're not going to let some bored comp sci student ruin their empire without breaking his program or breaking his legs.

[EliteNinja]

Booyah!
I knew they'd be catching these guys!!

As long as these sites want money, they will want to ban cheaters to make it more inviting for new clients.

Just like live casinos use the latest technology to catch live cheaters. It's part of their budget.

[Rah]

I think this is only stage 1. Obviously, those cheatings b***ards are still doing their thing. On the other hand, I'm sure PP has some guy checking out their forums and planning counter-measures as we speak.
Who knows, maybe a lawsuit is coming up?

Btw, party felt a lot looser today. Coincidence?

[mmbt0ne]

Sucker.

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I have left the bot on for approximately 11 hours a day, while i am sleeping. I have lost approximately 20$ total.

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