Better hand to show my recent woes... QQ

KingOtter · #1 02-01-2005, 01:04 PM

Too much?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 6 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (15 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Entity · #2 02-01-2005, 01:09 PM

You overplayed this hand horribly. Preflop is the only street I agree with.

Call the flop and fold the turn UI.

Rob

YM2K58 · #3 02-01-2005, 01:10 PM

I fail to understand why you raised on the turn after being 3-bet on the flop. Was UTG the loose-aggressive type?

chris_a · #4 02-01-2005, 01:12 PM

Way too much.

Why did you cap the flop? He raised Preflop and there's an Ace out. Yeah he can't raise back, but how much value are you getting?

Why did you raise the turn? You think him having at least an Ace is that unlikely at this point?

I believe both of these moves to be -EV. And even if they can possibly be construed as slightly +EV, which I doubt, they are "+++Standard Deviation".

Get used to swings if you plan on playing this way.

Did you have some read that you're not telling us about?

davelin · #5 02-01-2005, 01:13 PM

Way too much

KingOtter · #6 02-01-2005, 01:20 PM

Yes, he was very laggy. 77/33 over 48 hands.

I felt REAL tilt yesterday for the first time. I think this hand was the result of it.

KO

hicherbie · #7 02-01-2005, 01:55 PM

it looks like you were tilting already

GivenToFly · #8 02-01-2005, 01:57 PM

what would he be raising utg with? A10-AK? QK AA,KK,JJ although AA-KK doesn't seem likely from pf action... your behind all of these hands.. only reasonable hands your beating are KJ, K10? smaller pp.. 99? even if he was SUPER laggy... no reason to go nuts on turn.. if you are convinced theres a decent chance your ahead call down

KingOtter · #9 02-01-2005, 02:01 PM

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what would he be raising utg with? A10-AK? QK AA,KK,JJ although AA-KK doesn't seem likely from pf action... your behind all of these hands.. only reasonable hands your beating are KJ, K10? smaller pp.. 99? even if he was SUPER laggy... no reason to go nuts on turn.. if you are convinced theres a decent chance your ahead call down

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He was raising UTG (continually) with any ace, any king, and any pocket pair.

KO

Entity · #10 02-01-2005, 02:06 PM

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what would he be raising utg with? A10-AK? QK AA,KK,JJ although AA-KK doesn't seem likely from pf action... your behind all of these hands.. only reasonable hands your beating are KJ, K10? smaller pp.. 99? even if he was SUPER laggy... no reason to go nuts on turn.. if you are convinced theres a decent chance your ahead call down

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He was raising UTG (continually) with any ace, any king, and any pocket pair.

KO

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Then call down postflop. Your hand isn't really vulnerable here at all if you're ahead; your postflop line is wreckless.

Rob