Trying to break away from 'the rules'

[Yeti]

10/20 PL. HU with an unknown, we've been playing 5 hands or whatever.

I have JJ. He completes, I make it 40 more, he makes it 115 more, I call.

AsJx2s

I am never ever looking to fold here, in fact, I'm just worrying about how to get all the chips in the middle.

In the actual hand, he bets $55, I made it $325 and he called.

1800gambler says 'the hand is now over. so so over'.

Whilst I don't completely agree that I shouldn't put another dollar in, I really need to check this turn behind and perhaps call a smallish river bet/fold to a huge one.

In actuality, he checks the blank turn, I do a hefty bet, he moves in and I call. I lose obviously.

I just feel I need to break away from the 'don't look to fold sets w/ 100xbb rule' and start thinking a lot more about my opponents range of hands and the like.

I feel my game has got so sloppy.

Discuss.

[Rocaix]

If you really can narrow his range down that much then yeah maybe you can find a fold. However against an unknown HU in the Party 10/20 game, I don't think I can ever fold in that spot. It's too easy for him to have AJ, 22, AK, pair + flush draw or something completely off the wall, especially considering it's a blind battle. Maybe with more information about what his limp-reraises mean or his level of aggression and his lines with various hands, you might be able to put him on exactly AA, the way the hand played out.

But with so little information HU, I think almost everyone goes broke here on a blank turn. There's something to be said about thinking outside the box, but in this case I think the play is very standard given what is known.

[ML4L]

Hey Yeti,

[ QUOTE ]
the 'don't look to fold sets w/ 100xbb rule'

[/ QUOTE ]

Which page of the rulebook is this on? I'm pretty sure that I haven't seen it in my copy...

ML4L

[chuddo]

if you are looking to find a fold here, would you care to play me heads up for your entire bankroll?

really though:
you have set under set: easy to go broke.
you are heads up with a monster: easy to go broke.
you aren't disgustingly deep: easy to go broke.

and all this against an unknown. you were dealt a doomed hand, it sucks.

if you are not going broke heads-up here, then you are not going to be coming close to maximizing your gains.

[flawless_victory]

this go broke with bottom set and 100BB has always been BS for me.
however this is HU... that is just a brutal colddecking. i know you hate to pay it off, bc he played it soooo effing bad, but dont sweat it too much.

[autobet]

It's also a battle of the blinds.

The only thing that can save you is the preflop backraise. But that could be AK, so...

[Yeti]

Just to clarify, we are HU on our own table, not that it matters much.

And if preflop he raises I reraise he calls I'll happily go bust.

Or if he just limps and calls my raise I'll happily get the rest in.

But this limp reraise, it stinks of AA and I feel like a schmuck for paying off.

[autobet]

The $55 flop bet also smells. Either he is afraid of the A or wants you to call. When he calls your large raise, he most likely has at least a good ace...but he would have bet more on the flop with AK, AQ.

Either way this is the toughest of laydowns, especially heads up.

[captZEEbo1]

If you are gonna fold here postflop, you definitely should just go ahead with your "read" of "wreaking" of AA preflop, and fold preflop. Otherwise, are you seeing a flop with 22 here also (for set value). I mean, he easily has Ax (not even AK)...folding here would be the dumbest move in poker.

[1800GAMBLER]

P(Ax) * P(complete-reraise with AK) * P(bets $55 with AK) < 50%.