Completing with marginal hands in the SB and then the BB raises

[cab4656]

My VPIP from the SB seemed very low, so I recently started completing the SB with some weaker hands against one limper (or maybe two, depending on how fishy I feel). Hands like decent offsuit connectors and one-gappers and suited two-gappers. I noticed some other posts suggesting this was okay so I think I'm on the right track, but I wanted to be sure of this. Here's a hypothetical situation:

A loose-passive fishy player limps. I complete in the SB with 76o. Unknown BB raises and the fish calls. Easy fold, right?

Just asking cause it feels weird to call and then fold for one more.

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My VPIP from the SB seemed very low, so I recently started completing the SB with some weaker hands against one limper (or maybe two, depending on how fishy I feel). Hands like decent offsuit connectors and one-gappers and suited two-gappers. I noticed some other posts suggesting this was okay so I think I'm on the right track, but I wanted to be sure of this. Here's a hypothetical situation:

A loose-passive fishy player limps. I complete in the SB with 76o. Unknown BB raises and the fish calls. Easy fold, right?

Just asking cause it feels weird to call and then fold for one more.

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I would think it is an easy call.

[Nate tha' Great]

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A loose-passive fishy player limps. I complete in the SB with 76o. Unknown BB raises and the fish calls. Easy fold, right?

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My general approach is to call with any hand that doesn't have domination concerns. e.g. I might fold A3o or K8o in that spot but not 76o.

[Grisgra]

Excellent question. I used to call there all the time, even though now when there's a raise/coldcall or limp/raise, I don't call in the BB with 76o when it's going to be 3-handed. (I probably will if it's HU, as a pair might well be enough, or if it's 4+ handed, as I have enough implied odds to try to hit two-pair, trips, or a straight, I think, but 3-handed, generally not).

So that said, while I don't call in the BB with 76o when it's 3-handed, I ALWAYS used to call the BB raise after completing with 76o in the SB.

This made no sense to me, and so I recently stopped doing it. After all, often (but not always, certainly at 10/20) the raise from the BB means a pocket pair, so that if the flop comes 7-high you're more likely to be screwed than if the preflop betting pattern had been different.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

this is actual a common practice i do at 15/30 with the 2/3 blind structure, completing and then folding.

in the situation you describe, with 76o, there are times where i call the raise and other times where i don't.

[TStoneMBD]

grisgara, do you mind sharing your vpip SB, vpip BB and fold BB steal numbers?

[Grisgra]

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grisgara, do you mind sharing your vpip SB, vpip BB and fold BB steal numbers?

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Only if you spell my name correctly [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Suffices to say they're all way way high (e.g., VP$IP is something like 40%).

[TStoneMBD]

do you mind sharing your positional stats from the blinds, grisgra? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]