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Old 10-17-2004, 10:41 PM
jacki jacki is offline
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Default KK in first orbit

KK on the fourth hand of a $30 multi on Party. About 1400 entrants.

NL Hold'em
Level:1 Blinds (10/15)
Hero and UTG both have T1000 to start the hand.

Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG +1
UTG calls [15].
jacki raises [80].
fold
MP1 calls [80].
fold
fold
CO calls [80].
button folds.
both blinds fold.
UTG calls [65].


** Dealing Flop ** [ 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
UTG checks.
jacki bets [275].
MP1 and CO fold.
UTG calls [275].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
UTG checks.
jacki is all-In.


Comments on all streets appreciated.
Preflop: Big enough raise?
Flop: Is this bet too small?
Turn: Too reckless this early in a tourney?
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Old 10-17-2004, 10:51 PM
nsj nsj is offline
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Default Re: KK in first orbit

[ QUOTE ]

Comments on all streets appreciated.
Preflop: Big enough raise?
Flop: Is this bet too small?
Turn: Too reckless this early in a tourney?

[/ QUOTE ]

Fold preflop, or limp/fold to a raise. My thinking is when you raise a marginal hand like this out of position, it becomes tough to play with three callers.

That said, flop bet is fine, but I slow down with a caller, especially to an UTG limper who has now cold-called a pre-flop raise and a near pot-sized flop bet. What did you put him on?

The turn push is reckless. I'm checking behind here and hoping for a 9 J or A on the river.
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Old 10-17-2004, 10:53 PM
jacki jacki is offline
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Default Re: KK in first orbit

Sorry NSJ, i must have edited this while you replied. I have KK, not KJ.
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Old 10-17-2004, 11:23 PM
davidross davidross is offline
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Default Re: KK in first orbit

I like the play on every street. If you're behind you still have outs, or you can make him pay the price if he's drawing. I can't see you folding this hand, so betting less on any street doesn't help.
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Old 10-18-2004, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: KK in first orbit

Thanks for the response.
My main worry was that the flop bet wasn't big enough.

He called my allin and turned over K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
River is 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and I lose. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I'm pretty sure no matter how much i bet on the flop he calls, so there wasn't too much I could have done here....
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