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Old 08-26-2005, 06:30 PM
callmedonnie callmedonnie is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

I do some reraising of my own. If you cap I lead the turn. If you don't, I lead the turn.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:35 PM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

Okay, so you 3-bet, but Barron 4-bets it.

He must have Aces!

Fold!

You forget that since it's heads-up that you can reraise and you mistakenly believe that you can only call, which you do.

Pot: $145 (7.25 BB)

Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What do you do?

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Old 08-26-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

Bet/3-bet.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

bet and call down if im raised
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:22 AM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

You decide to fire out a bet on that turn and see what happens. While he has acted almost immediately before, this time he takes a moment and simply calls.

Pot: $185 (9.25 BB)

River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Final board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Do you bet or check?

If you bet and Barron raises, do you call? 3-bet? fold?

If you check and Barron bets, do you call? raise? fold?

You both know that you're both 2+2'ers.

What do his actions indicate that he has, raising pre-flop, calling your raise, four-betting on the flop, calling your bet on the turn...?

What is the range of hands - and there is your answer.

What do you do?

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Old 08-27-2005, 09:42 AM
Rezman5 Rezman5 is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

Check call. I think sometimes this play will be made with the flush draw, and sometimes with the OESD, so I think a call is in order with such a big pot.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

Bet call since there are alot more hands you're ahead of here that might check behind.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:39 PM
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Bet call since there are alot more hands you're ahead of here that might check behind.

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Old 08-27-2005, 10:27 AM
Bill C Bill C is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

Range of hands: pretty large, including medium pairs and big connectors both suited and unsuited. A str8 seems unlikely as does AA. A flush or a set is possible.

Most likely I have the best hand and BVT is trying to assert his superiority and knock me off of it. But the pot is big, and I have no good evidence that I'm beat.

So on the river I bet and call if he raises.

bill [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:51 AM
Keats13 Keats13 is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

Based on your actions, I put you on a strong draw on the flop. So either you got there on the river with hearts, or you missed with QJ.

Either way I don't see much value in betting the river. I'd rather check and try to induce a bluff from the QJ.

Also, even in the case where my read is off and you have another hand, my actions have defined my hand pretty well, I would think, and I can't imagine being called by many worse hands
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