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Old 12-11-2005, 10:21 PM
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63% of you suck.

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Old 12-11-2005, 10:37 PM
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When I was in grad school, I once saw a note on the chalkboard in an office that the first year students shared saying `The solution to problem 2 of the take home is on p. 126 of the book on the table.' The person who I am convinced wrote that note said that he didn't understand why I thought it was wrong to do so.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:22 AM
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63% of you suck.



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Yeah, I was really surprised by this. Really surprised at the number.

Personally, I would just not want to know that I cheated. I mean, even if the prof. didn't, I would.

Also, if there is one thing I have learned, its that grades mean jack [censored] when it comes to what you really learned. Of course, the world doesn't work that way, so I guess in the end, I'm not that surprised.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:34 AM
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63% of you suck.



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Yeah, I was really surprised by this. Really surprised at the number.

Personally, I would just not want to know that I cheated. I mean, even if the prof. didn't, I would.

Also, if there is one thing I have learned, its that grades mean jack [censored] when it comes to what you really learned. Of course, the world doesn't work that way, so I guess in the end, I'm not that surprised.

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I'm not going to rush on something just because some self-important academic [censored] says I should. If I have 24 hours to get the thing turned back in, I'm going to do it at my own pace, and almost certainly wouldn't do the whole thing straight through with no breaks.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:40 AM
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Anyone who cheats here should be thrown out of school. Especially if you're in a fcuking graduate programm for christ sakes. You're supposed to be studying something you love and motivated to learn.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:40 AM
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I'm not going to rush on something just because some self-important academic [censored] says I should. If I have 24 hours to get the thing turned back in, I'm going to do it at my own pace . . .

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The only reason you have to turn it in at all is because some self-important academic [censored] told you so. Why bother handing it in at all? I enjoy how self-righteous you seem to be about this. It's the man that's rushing you and preventing you from learning; when, of course, if it really mattered that much to you, you could hand the exam in for credit and then keep working on it on your own.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:56 AM
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I'm not going to rush on something just because some self-important academic [censored] says I should. If I have 24 hours to get the thing turned back in, I'm going to do it at my own pace . . .

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The only reason you have to turn it in at all is because some self-important academic [censored] told you so. Why bother handing it in at all? I enjoy how self-righteous you seem to be about this. It's the man that's rushing you and preventing you from learning; when, of course, if it really mattered that much to you, you could hand the exam in for credit and then keep working on it on your own.

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The difference is that time limit is stupid, arbitrary, and unenforceable. If you were working, do you think one of your bosses would give you some task to do and say, "Have this on my desk by 3:00 tomorrow, but don't spend anymore than 2 hours working on it"? And no, the reason I have to turn it in at all is not because some professor said so. The reason I have to turn it in is that there are widely-accepted standards of what should be required to get a particular degree. If a professor decided to have no tests or papers or projects or anything else, and just have his lectures and give everybody an 84 at the end of the semester, my guess is that he'd catch a lot of [censored] over it in most fields of study.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:06 AM
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The difference is that time limit is stupid, arbitrary, and unenforceable. If you were working, do you think one of your bosses would give you some task to do and say, "Have this on my desk by 3:00 tomorrow, but don't spend anymore than 2 hours working on it"? And no, the reason I have to turn it in at all is not because some professor said so. The reason I have to turn it in is that there are widely-accepted standards of what should be required to get a particular degree. If a professor decided to have no tests or papers or projects or anything else, and just have his lectures and give everybody an 84 at the end of the semester, my guess is that he'd catch a lot of [censored] over it in most fields of study.

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I think it is unfortunate that college has become universally expected when at all possible in the U.S., because it strikes me that people like you don't really belong there.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:47 AM
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I'm not going to rush on something just because some self-important academic [censored] says I should. If I have 24 hours to get the thing turned back in, I'm going to do it at my own pace, and almost certainly wouldn't do the whole thing straight through with no breaks.

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Yep. The Man's trying to keep you down, so [censored] The Man.

The Man also tells you to wear your seatbelt and drive on the right-hand side of the road.

Fight the power. Show him who's boss.

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Old 12-12-2005, 11:06 AM
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I'm not going to rush on something just because some self-important academic [censored] says I should. If I have 24 hours to get the thing turned back in, I'm going to do it at my own pace, and almost certainly wouldn't do the whole thing straight through with no breaks.

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Yep. The Man's trying to keep you down, so [censored] The Man.

The Man also tells you to wear your seatbelt and drive on the right-hand side of the road.

Fight the power. Show him who's boss.

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Obviously, a time limit on a take-home exam is more analogous to a speed limit sign than it is to driving on the right side of the road or wearing a seat belt.
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