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Old 10-30-2005, 05:50 AM
blackize blackize is offline
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Default Re: TP gets 3-bet..

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do you really think I'm behind the donkbettor on the turn the majority of time?

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After he 3 bets you, yes. The double gutshot came in on the turn as well as many two pair combinations are possible with this board.
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Old 10-30-2005, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: TP gets 3-bet..

It's not the donkbettor who 3-bet me... The question was here why it wouldn't be correct to raise the turn.
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Old 10-30-2005, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: TP gets 3-bet..

Sorry its late. The only reason I don't like raising is there are so many hands that people fall in love with that have two pair and straights now.

After the threebet you are almost certainly behind though.
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Old 10-30-2005, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: TP gets 3-bet..

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Sorry its late. The only reason I don't like raising is there are so many hands that people fall in love with that have two pair and straights now.

After the threebet you are almost certainly behind though.

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Sure the turn card doesnt do wonders for our hand but I can only think of a few hands that you're talking about. QT and KJ are all that really improved on the turn. Maybe K8 is peelin. I think more often than not a turn raise is giving us plenty of value and charging hearts when they're out there. Getting 3-bet sucks, sure, but I don't see that happening most of the time. FWIW, I call the turn and fold the river UI.
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Old 10-30-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: TP gets 3-bet..

Yeah, knowing the 3 bet is coming is making me less willing to raise. I do raise this almost every time though, and I wasn't suggesting that we not raise here, we just have to realize if we get 3 bet we're in trouble.
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