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Old 07-27-2005, 03:42 PM
TiltsMcFabulous TiltsMcFabulous is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

I think you played this perfectly. You cannot fold AJs in this spot in the BB. But then the flop completely misses you, and you are behind every decent raising hand but A-10 and KJs. You had a clear call preflop and you made it, and you had a clear fold postflop, and you made it.

Well done.

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Old 07-27-2005, 03:43 PM
Bluffoon Bluffoon is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

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If I just called preflop I would put him to the test with a check raise on the flop and a turn lead. At worst the table sees that they had better be prepared to invest heavily to take your blinds.

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Wouldn't this be a better plan with a more ragged flop? The Q could well have hit him, and if it did I can't imagine laying down.

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Yeah it could have hit him but it's just a lone Queen there are no draws or no real coordination. Don't get me wrong I don't autmatically fight for every pot but I don't automatically fold to a lone overcard in a heads up steal situation either.
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Old 07-27-2005, 03:51 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

This isn't exactly a steal situation.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

bluffoon,

We know several things at this point:

1) We're very likely behind.
2) Our opponent is very loose and likely to at least see the river and more likely showdown.
3) The pot is pretty small.
4) We don't have much going for us as far as outs when we are behind.

IMO this hand was perfectly played.

Chief
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

Yeah, easy call.
I thought u cc from Button.
I misread the hand.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:07 PM
Bluffoon Bluffoon is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

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This isn't exactly a steal situation.

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You know what you are right it's not. The raise wasn't from EP but it's not late either.

This post started out a little weak-tight I thought and the read was based on skimpy stats. I suggested that taking a more aggressive line in these situations can pay off and have some intangible advantages as well. I agree that this line is not always appropriate but I think taking a fit and fold approach all the time is not a good approach either.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

Call the flop bet and if you don't improve, dump it.

Folding preflop would be cool. You're out of postion in a small pot with a marginal hand that's probably dominated, and if an Ace flops, you're gonna be in tough spot.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:21 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: AJs, what the hell am I doing?

Chief's post really sums this up well.

Combine Chief's analysis with the analysis already given about why this is probably a marginal play pre-flop, and I think it's quite clear that the OP played this hand as well as it could possibly be played.
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Old 07-27-2005, 05:39 PM
The Nutz85 The Nutz85 is offline
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I disagree. It can look like you slowplayed a big pair or you could have just hit a set or any damn hand with a queen could be scary to the PRFer.

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This is assuming he isa good hand reader likely not as good as me or any 2+2er so i doubt this would work your relying on him to be smart enough to pick up on a slow play.
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