Stealing and isolating a single limper. - Page 2

KaiShin · #1 03-21-2005, 04:45 PM

I think you should attempt to place your own ranges out there, instead of just saying "SSHE". Do you really look it up every time its folded to you in MP3?

Fishlips_Jones · #2 03-21-2005, 05:09 PM

Yes, I play with the book open right beside me.

Fishlips

KaiShin · #3 03-21-2005, 06:00 PM

I don't really think that's the best way to take advantage of the knowledge contained in that book, but OK.

Fishlips_Jones · #4 03-21-2005, 06:07 PM

I've also read thru it twice and keep it handy near the bowl. Not the fishbowl, the other one. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Fishlips

davelin · #5 03-21-2005, 04:45 PM

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RE: SSHE

1. open raise in MP3? ANYTHING I WOULD CALL WITH
2. open raise in CO? ANYTHING I WOULD CALL WITH
3. open raise on Button? ANYTHING I WOULD CALL WITH

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That's a little vague no? I'd call 43s with enough limpers but I don't think it's a good reason to open-raise them.

gasoltub · #6 03-22-2005, 07:45 PM

What page is that on?

VBM · #7 03-21-2005, 06:43 PM

i'm making absolutely no claims about the correctness of my bass-ackwards game, but fwiw, i think this is probably about what i'm doing in each of these cases...

1. open raise in MP3?>= 77+, ATo+, suited broadways
2. open raise in CO?>= 33+, Ax, broadways (suited or not)
3. open raise on Button?(same as cutoff)
4. folded to you in SB?(what do you raise? what do you open-complete?) raising Ax, 33-TT, KT+; completing JJ+.
5. 1 limper to you in CO/Button?raising Axs, 55+, suited broadways
6. CO/Button open raises.. what are your ranges in the SB (for raising? for calling?)3-betting 66+; completing ATo+, broadways
7. CO/Button open raises.. what are your ranges in the BB (for raising? for calling?) has SB folded? if so, 3-betting ATo+, 33-TT; calling AA, KK, QQ, AK.

in 2+2 games, i'd tend to 3-bet most of my strongest hands; as 2+2 players are far more suspicious of calls than raises.

bottomset · #8 03-22-2005, 01:31 AM

am I the only one that likes stealing with suited connectors more than offsuit broadway??

I like hands like 76s, 97s, those type hands a lot in these situations, I'm working on my shorthanded play so I could be totally wrong here

as for my entire range of hands .. I'll type that out tomorrow when i have more time, its a pretty broad range(there are a lot of hands to get to 30VPIP or so)

btspider · #9 03-22-2005, 06:53 PM

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am I the only one that likes stealing with suited connectors more than offsuit broadway??

I like hands like 76s, 97s, those type hands a lot in these situations, I'm working on my shorthanded play so I could be totally wrong here

as for my entire range of hands .. I'll type that out tomorrow when i have more time, its a pretty broad range(there are a lot of hands to get to 30VPIP or so)

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with position, even something like Q9 has some showdown value if your opponent missed a draw and you take a free showdown. i forget who, but some 2+2er once said, just think of 76s as seven high.

VBM · #10 03-22-2005, 07:32 PM

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2+2er once said, just think of 76s as seven high.

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sthief09, in his Pocket-pairs & suited connectors primer. great stuff...

El D also said something once (b4 he started responding to everything in poetic meter) about how in pre-flop, high card strength is a bigger factor HU than the suitedness & connectedness...