Do you think this is a bluff?

Scuba Chuck · #1 11-28-2005, 12:51 PM

This is a $22. No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t515)
SB (t1405)
BB (t630)
UTG (t485)
Hero (t1540)
MP1 (t1225)
MP2 (t825)
CO (t1375)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t450, 4 folds, SB calls t375, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1050) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t500, Hero ...

tigerite · #2 11-28-2005, 12:54 PM

I'd just have pushed pf. You aren't intending to fold the flop now are you? Especially with 1/3rd your stack in the pot. I push here, for sure. If he has an ace, so be it. Can't really see how you can get away from this.

Scuba Chuck · #3 11-28-2005, 01:01 PM

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I'd just have pushed pf. You aren't intending to fold the flop now are you? Especially with 1/3rd your stack in the pot. I push here, for sure. If he has an ace, so be it. Can't really see how you can get away from this.

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Do you think this is a bluff? If you think his bet is legitimate, why couldn't folding with ~1100 chips be bad?

tigerite · #4 11-28-2005, 01:07 PM

There's just too much chance he has a lower pair, a ten, a straight draw or just complete air here. I mean, with two aces on the flop, he's going to think you whiffed, because the chances are you don't have one. I see no alternative to pushing here. If you want to get tricksy you can call and then try to induce a bluff on the river, or something. But I don't see how you can fold.

#5 11-28-2005, 01:44 PM

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There's just too much chance he has a lower pair, a ten, a straight draw or just complete air here. I mean, with two aces on the flop, he's going to think you whiffed, because the chances are you don't have one. I see no alternative to pushing here. If you want to get tricksy you can call and then try to induce a bluff on the river, or something. But I don't see how you can fold.

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Especially agree with the don't see how you can fold part.

Scuba Chuck · #6 11-28-2005, 01:52 PM

I guess my question is this: If he had an ace, wouldn't he have played this differently? If he had AK/AQ, wouldn't he have played this more aggressively preflop? If he had a weaker ace, wouldn't he either check or push this flop? This bet just seems so strange.

jeffraider · #7 12-07-2005, 02:50 AM

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I'd just have pushed pf

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C'mon man that's criminally bad.

PS nice hand Scuba I play it identically to you! Very nicely done!

tigerite · #8 12-07-2005, 07:41 AM

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I'd just have pushed pf

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C'mon man that's criminally bad.

PS nice hand Scuba I play it identically to you! Very nicely done!

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I should have added, "if I've been particularly active of late". i.e., been a bit of a pushbot. Sorry, rushed the reply at the time.

#9 11-28-2005, 01:01 PM

If you push here, you played it fine.

SonnyJay · #10 11-28-2005, 01:12 PM

I don't think you can get away from this. I don't think there are a ton of players at $22s betting into a preflop raiser with trip aces on the flop. I'd expect to see a T more frequently than an A, but that's just me. I push.

-SonnyJay