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11-17-2005, 08:17 PM
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Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry FeeLevel:5 Blinds(75/150)
Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 7 Seat 1: AtlBrvs4Life ( $435 ) Seat 2: Anonymous 2+2er ( $940 ) Seat 3: ditch7 ( $1715 ) Seat 6: blipbloop ( $2290 ) Seat 7: Ozone7777 ( $780 ) Seat 8: CASS32 ( $1260 ) Seat 9: michw ( $580 ) Trny:17470141 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to michw [ 6h 7h ] CASS32 folds. michw is all-In [580] AtlBrvs4Life folds. anonymous 2+2er is all-In [940] ditch7 folds. blipbloop folds. Ozone7777 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Qc, Kd ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ] ** Dealing River ** [ 4s ] michw shows [ 6h, 7h ] a pair of sevens. anonymous 2+2er shows [ Ah, 9c ] high card ace. anonymous 2+2er wins 360 chips from side pot #1 with high card ace. michw wins 1385 chips from the main pot with a pair of sevens. The anonymous 2+2er immediately called me a moron following the hand. Am I really a moron for pushing here? I 4 table the 30+3's and literally make pushes like this all the time when I'm short rather than pay the blinds again. If I don't push here what's my plan? Play my BB regardless? Pay the blinds and leave myself with 350 chips if I don't pick up a hand? I searched the previous hands and there wasn't a better situation to push. Either the pot was already opened when I had decent cards or I'm pushing with a much worse hand than 67s. Pushing w/ 67s here seems automatic to me. If anything, calling off 2/3rd's of my stack w/ A9 seems much worse to me and is a play I rarely make given that stack size. Ironically, we ended up getting heads up and anonymous 2+2er took it down. The anonymouse 2+2er is a regular on this forum and I respect his opinion. That's why I'm posting this, so I hope he doesn't feel slighted. I'm called a moron on a semi-daily basis by the fish, but wasn't expecting to hear it from a 2+2er that I respect. I was very surprised that he would disagree with this push given how automatic it seemed to me. Do I have a huge leak in my game? He ended up apologizing for the name calling and we discussed the hand for a while following this. However, we never came to an agreement as to who was the real moron on this hand. That's for you to decide. 
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11-17-2005, 08:26 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
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The anonymouse 2+2er is a regular on this forum and I respect his opinion. [/ QUOTE ] Many a 2+2er seem to post better than they play.
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#5
11-17-2005, 08:29 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
i will say I am a moron for being a jerk to him, something I've been working on. It's less frequent but still happens unfortunately. I do not think my call is bad at all first of all. And with his push I am still working on low stack early position pushes but I think I just push any 2 next hand.
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11-17-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
funny...sgpt says they are equally marginal: giving you: 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs he calls w/: 55+,ATo+,A9s+ - with A9o being +.4 giving.............(avg: 66+,ATs+,AJo+, loose: 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) BB "average" SB "loose" Button "loose" CO "average' CO+1 "loose' you push w/: 22+,A4o+,A2s+,K9o+,K2s+,Q8o+,Q4s+,J8o+,J6s+,T8o+,T 6s+,98o,96s+,86s+,76s,65s - with 76o being +.4 glad u guys made nice at the end
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11-17-2005, 08:33 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
yeah i felt like an ass and was mad that I would do that to a 2+2er, random person i could care less. But this is why I need to just stop doing it.
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#8
11-17-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
My first instinct: The push was marginal but certainly not bad. He was a moran to call.
after SNGPT: The push was marginal but certainly not bad. It was a good call. I need to learn to call more.
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11-17-2005, 09:00 PM
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Re: Party 30+3 - Who\'s the moron?
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funny...sgpt says they are equally marginal: giving you: 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs he calls w/: 55+,ATo+,A9s+ - with A9o being +.4 giving.............(avg: 66+,ATs+,AJo+, loose: 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) BB "average" SB "loose" Button "loose" CO "average' CO+1 "loose' you push w/: 22+,A4o+,A2s+,K9o+,K2s+,Q8o+,Q4s+,J8o+,J6s+,T8o+,T 6s+,98o,96s+,86s+,76s,65s - with 76o being +.4 glad u guys made nice at the end [/ QUOTE ] The call is marginal assuming that nobody wakes up with a real hand behind you. IMO this makes the call neutral at best.
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