Turn play when overcard hits

#1 10-05-2005, 03:25 PM

This hand generated a fair bit of discussion in HUSH. I'm the villan (BB) and I have Q9 (no club). What's the right play on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with ___:.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

ggbman · #2 10-05-2005, 03:32 PM

I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

Entity · #3 10-05-2005, 03:33 PM

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

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Hock is OOP.

Rob

Justin A · #4 10-05-2005, 03:33 PM

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

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BB has Q9, "hero" is button and his cards are unknown. I think Hock is asking what BB should do.

#5 10-05-2005, 03:37 PM

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I would raise and check behind the river. You only miss value on the river from worse queens or a ten, and this way you charge him with clubs, TJ, etc...

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BB has Q9, "hero" is button and his cards are unknown. I think Hock is asking what BB should do.

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Right. Sorry for the confusion.

mc1023 · #6 10-05-2005, 04:04 PM

bet and call a raise seems to be the obvious line from first glance for me.

#7 10-05-2005, 08:42 PM

bet w/ the intention of calling a raise if it comes. reevaluate on the river based on the opponent.

#8 10-06-2005, 10:00 AM

Nobody thinks there's merit to the BB check/calling the turn?

#9 10-06-2005, 05:04 PM

you could check raise the turn to get information as to whether the K helped him or if he's still on a draw.. if he misses the club draw the check raise may earn you a free showdown on the river.

#10 10-06-2005, 05:38 PM

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Nobody thinks there's merit to the BB check/calling the turn?

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i think this line is second best behind bet/calling. betting is better b/c a) you likely still have the best hand, so it is for value, and b) he could easily have a hand w/ a lot of outs against you, and so you want to charge him to draw.