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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
Yeah, it makes a little difference, probably more in the transition between 50-100 to 75-150.
And I used more than 1/4 the words, I might have just started sooner. What are the 2 clues that UTG is a muppet? I'd need a read to say that him raising min UTG is muppet, this could mean a strong hand that wants action or a reraise. I need a read before I'm commiting too many chips with him contesting the pot. lbk |
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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
45suited,
I agree more in that I like a hand like 45s-T8s. I also agree that KQ is one of the worst hands to have here, but I also see donkey raises and calls here. If UTG would have raise to 175 or so and two callers I would be more inclined to give it up here, and I think your argument works more for this sized raise. I like getting into pots, in safe spots if I have a comfortable chip stack, in 25-50 and 50-100 levels to look for more chips. However your chipstack is kinda at that awkward level, but I think I find the room to spare 50 chips right here, because I don't think it hurts us *that* bad. I also agree that we have to watch out for UTG, but I still don't mind getting my chips in on a K or Q high flop in a minraised pot, but maybe I'm just a donkey. lbk |
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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
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What are the 2 clues that UTG is a muppet? [/ QUOTE ] Clue 1. He has 2250 chips on level 3. As counterintuitive as it may seem, I believe that a bad player is much more likely to have a bunch of chips at level 3 vs. a good player. Clue 2. He has minraised UTG. I know lots of good SNG players. I can think of one or two that minraise at the 25/50 level, and they generally do it in LP. Now, one look at his PT numbers oughta solidify or nullify this read. |
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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
I don't really see that it matters if he's a muppet. I mean, say for the sake of argument that he's a muppet. Is he more or less likely to be mini-raising UTG with a hand that dominates you?
I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that question. Plus, don't forget that all the other factors are still in play: Likelihood of domination, playing OOP, a stack not big enough to play the hand for information, having to play TP weakly, and a stack that is just fine if I fold and move on. And if he IS a muppet, there will come a time later, in a spot not nearly so tricky, where I will exploit his 'muppetness'. Interesting discussion though. Thanks for giving me your feedback. |
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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
I would definitely call with KQ and 1000 chips here. Don't fear the min raise in level 3.
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Re: Passing up 7:1 pot odds with KQo
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I would definitely call with KQ and 1000 chips here. Don't fear the min raise in level 3. [/ QUOTE ] It's not that I was fearing the mini-raise, but also that in the process of playing my hand with caution, I'm also letting all kinds of other hands beat me as well. In this exact spot, do you think you're giving anything up by mucking pre-flop? |
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